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Kharak
23-01-2012, 02:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHrq52-GCG0&feature=relmfu

First of all, does it work?

Is it cheating?

I'm wondering if this is cheating. Because as I understand, Battlefield 3 has the negative mouse acceleration to make you aim more "real lifish".. The aim sways to the area you're trying to aim at, kinda gets pulled over to the spot you want to shoot at, don't know if you've noticed, but I have.

Now I haven't done this, yet... But if this works in anyway as I think it will, then this sway aiming will be removed.

Isn't this giving an advantage over other players?

If other people are stuck with sway aiming and you run around CS aiming.. That kinda seems like a cheat to me.

What do you think?

Dax
23-01-2012, 02:28
Negative acceleration is the sole reason I dont play this game.

It is so ****ed up on my PC, it turns me the opposite way than I spin, and then back the right way..

If there is a way to remove, I sure as hell am doing it.

radical red
23-01-2012, 03:53
What does negative acceleration do?

Ripper
23-01-2012, 10:17
Afaik it makes ur aim worse, its kinda like cheating indeed but I'm sure some have it off too.

athanasios7592
23-01-2012, 10:47
I wouldnt say this is cheating, it may be a bit of a gray area though....

with someone like dax whos game glitches out because of it though, i say remove away.

Ripper
23-01-2012, 10:59
yeah agree, although I don't feel this much, I've been thru settings until it was comfortable, on my mouse software I turn off windows acceleration and when i join any game i have to put it to lower/higher dpi then back to normal so it is normal and not accelerated or something else, this is easy and made on the fly since its just pressing dpi button on mouse. :)

XxXButcher
23-01-2012, 13:56
If I remember correctly, EA told people in a public thread in their official forums, that they may change all data, that is not in the installation folder.
This profile.bla.whatever file is located in your own documents folder and not in the installation folder, so it should not count as violation of any rule.

Well this is what I remember, ergo this information is supplied without liability.
I told nobody to use this. If you get yourself into trouble with this, this will be in your own responsibility.
(Or shove it onto Faceless)

Timosfrag
23-01-2012, 17:50
No, common sense say that its not cheating. Dont know what EA say :)


If I remember correctly, EA told people in a public thread in their official forums, that they may change all data, that is not in the installation folder.
This profile.bla.whatever file is located in your own documents folder and not in the installation folder, so it should not count as violation of any rule.

Can someone confirm this, its important to fix some bugs :quote:

XxXButcher
23-01-2012, 18:02
No, common sense say that its not cheating. Dont know what EA say :)


Can someone confirm this, its important to fix some bugs :quote:
I can find the fix on the EA forums without anything against it from EA:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-3/1444629-remove-negative-accel-mouse.html

Ripper
23-01-2012, 18:20
Thats same thing mate, I will give it a try. :)

Kharak
24-01-2012, 01:43
I've tried it now.

As the guy in the video mentions. "Some people say its only a placebo effect"... But I'm not sure.. The sway thing seems to be gone.

It also seemed easier to snipe.

Need more people to test this.

But there is no significant change, thats for sure.

And how about you Dax? Did it fix your problem?

Mark359
24-01-2012, 02:25
Hello, hope all is well...Mark

Ripper
24-01-2012, 09:53
Well I did try it last night and saw no diff at all tbh, anyone else tested?

athanasios7592
24-01-2012, 09:53
Yeah, I tried it out for a while, there is definitely a difference. Whether or not it makes it easier to play or aim I'm not sure since its very slight and I'm just not that good ;). The easiest way to see that the effect is removed is to look at the gun animation as you move it around, it stutters a little bit. The aiming does look more precise and even, but again, it isn't a huge deal as far as i can tell.

radical red
24-01-2012, 10:15
I will try this as soon as I can find some time to play :cry:

XxXButcher
24-01-2012, 19:10
Hello, hope all is well...Mark

hy Mark...lol :offtopic:

I will test turning off this thingi and see how it goes

Timosfrag
24-01-2012, 19:52
I remembered a program i saw (posted here or googling ) "Battlefield 3 Settings Editor" http://bf3.realmware.co.uk/settings-editor/
It allows you to easily customise and tweak all of your Battlefield 3 settings, including the ones that aren't displayed on the in-game menu. You can keybind anything.:yes1:

athanasios7592
25-01-2012, 18:37
I'm an idiot

I accidentally overwrote the original settings file, what were the original values?

Ripper
25-01-2012, 19:56
mine are:

GstInput.Scheme0Sensitivity 1.000000

GstInput.Scheme1Sensitivity 1.000000

GstInput.Scheme2Sensitivity 0.500000

rulfish
26-01-2012, 09:29
@athanasios it said you should have done it in the video that they should been
GstInput.Scheme0Sensitivity 0.000000
GstInput.Scheme1Sensitivity 0.000000
GstInput.Scheme2Sensitivity 0.000000
and i could not find those in the program linked from you @timosfrag

Ripper
26-01-2012, 09:39
I didnt use notepad++ to edit file, I used wordpad, works the same and no install needed. ;)


@rulfish http://bf3.realmware.co.uk/settings-editor/files/BF3SE-2.3.exe

radical red
26-01-2012, 09:53
I changed this, havent noticed any difference :dunno:

athanasios7592
26-01-2012, 11:46
@rulfish, thats what you edit it to, the original settings are what i needed, because i was getting some really weird lag, but the lag is still there :(, I turned my mouse to lowest dpi, and max sensitivity, which helped a lot, but you can tell the lag is still there. So I don't know what happened this past week that could cause lag like this.

Kharak
26-01-2012, 12:23
Original settings are:

GstInput.Scheme0Sensitivity 1.000000
GstInput.Scheme1Sensitivity 1.000000
GstInput.Scheme2Sensitivity 0.500000

radical red
26-01-2012, 12:28
Strange. For me, Scheme0Sensitivity was 0.976744.

rulfish
26-01-2012, 12:40
hmm are you sure its the right one couse one of them is the mouse sensitivity how fast is it going to move when you move your mouse like just move it about a cm and you can make it go 360 on your ass :)

rulfish
28-01-2012, 18:24
hmm whas this not supposed to remove the swaying or how it whas when you zoom in couse i still does it for me

radical red
28-01-2012, 18:30
As far as I know, negative acceleration prevents you from having sudden jerky movement. For example, if you moved 2 inches very fast, it would move less than moving 2 inches very slow. I don;t think it has anything to do with scope sway.

XxXButcher
28-01-2012, 18:33
Changed the values and played some rounds.
To me it only makes difference when making well aimed shots.
The F2000 and especially the MG36 are like sniper rifles now :shock:

rulfish
28-01-2012, 19:21
hmm i had 1 good round then it basicly almoste every shot went **** :(

Kharak
28-01-2012, 20:16
The sway I mention, is the sway that it gets when you pull the aim.

rulfish
28-01-2012, 20:19
okay thx for the info kharak :)

Dax
16-02-2012, 17:50
For the record, this works, its awesome, and I can actually play the game

Bert
19-02-2012, 16:00
when you say play you mean participate I assume ?
;)

Dax
19-02-2012, 16:28
when you say play you mean participate I assume ?
;)

I suppose I'm bad enough to not count as contribute, so I'll go for participate :)