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We feel that Timeless Deathmatch is not a popular as we'd like it to be and wish to change this.
Rather than just change it, we'd like some feedback from you guys.
Choosing from Rush or CQ, either single maps 24/7, some maps or change the rounds to 1 round?
What we need is a popular server, need many players to join and be full as much of the time as possible.
Some stats (since stats logging began), how many players have joined these servers so far here:
Deathmatch : 311
Valparaiso : 1900+
Atacama : 1800+
Rush1 : 2500+
Rush2 : 1200+
CQ: 1100
Leave your ideas below :thankyou:
EDIT: we also want to consider a change to CQ but for it to remain CQ of some sort.
Couple of things I want to point out before the discussion gets going.
There are a few things me and jiddo are considering doing to some of the servers, to compliment the auto idle kick and such, to try and keep the servers going a little longer.
1. Remove the less popular maps from the servers when there are lower player numbers, and repeat the popular maps often (valpare)
2. Possibly look at making it one round per map with the lower player numbers, keep it changing and interesting.
Now onto the discussion at hand.
For deathmatch, yeah, I agree, it needs changing, its hard to start up, and dies quicker than the other servers.
I would like to point out we have never tried a squad rush server, and maybe we could consider trying one out, even if i feel it would be the same as deathmatch.
Its a difficult decision for me between rush and conquest....rush is where the players are, conquest is where my heart is. Putting another full CQ rotation up is just silly, at least for now, maybe a Rush 3? (identical to rush 1/2) or a single map conquest.
Another idea would maybe be to change it along with rush 2, into 2 different servers, with half of the maps on each, leaving the vehicle intensive maps to one, and the infantry ones to the other.....I would LOVE to see this. I would suggest it being a rush one for now though.
As for CQ, we have to have some kind of CQ, we cant have 6 rush servers, I would hate that, IMO, its best staying like it is, it starts with the effort of a few admins, we just need to put a little more effort into it ;). when its up and running its the server that stays up the longest.
Conquest is my favorite game mode and is what I play given a choice. I can however not ignore the fact that the conquest server is MUCH harder to start then the others and the fact that there are several regulars and admins who simply do not want to help start Conquest. This is a shame, but there is not much we can do about it. As a result I must agree that if we change the Deathmatch server it should be into another Rush one. Unfortunately I think that we even have to consider changing the current Conquest server at some point if it doesn't become easier to start.
Another idea would maybe be to change it along with rush 2, into 2 different servers, with half of the maps on each, leaving the vehicle intensive maps to one, and the infantry ones to the other.....I would LOVE to see this. I would suggest it being a rush one for now though.
I would also very much like this idea no matter how we actually set it up. I can imagine:
01 - All Rush
02 - Infantry Rush
05 - Vehicle Rush
Infantry Rush could run all the rush maps that have only a couple of Light tanks. (No heavy tanks, no attack helicopters etc.) Vehicle Rush could run the remaining maps. That would leave enough maps on each rotation to make it fun and it would make it possble for players to play the kind of maps that they like.
Speedstar1776
24-07-2010, 15:44
IMO, i would try a CQ infantry server, cause its the same like in the old Battlefield games. I think about a random map CQ inf server for the current Deathmatch server.
or
we wait for Ashoof, when he buy the new server, we have the option to setup more server than now.
This isnt about new servers, its about filling the ones we have ;)
First we fill, then we look at more maybe?
OK here's what was posted in the administrators forum:
(this is in place of deathmatch)
How about another 24/7 of some sort, perhaps Arica 24/7 -Rush? Or try something more suited to infantry players like Nelson Bay 24/7 -Rush, the other snowy one.
others we could do: Isla Inocentes 24/7 Laguna Presa 24/7 or how about the jungle maps only on 1 server? Timeless Jungle? Which would be 3 maps : Valparaíso, Isla Inocentes and Laguna Presa.
Speedstar1776
24-07-2010, 16:48
i like the idea about 24/7 Nelson Bay rush inf only :)
I prefer the jungle idea, its nice, and maybe in time, we can also have winter, or desert :)
Hunt3rW0lf
24-07-2010, 17:35
I give thumbs up to Jungle rotation :)
As to Nelson Bay 24/7 Rush, it wouldn't be as popular as something like Islas 24/7 or Presa 24/7, hopefully we may get a more infantry orientated rush map in one of the new packs, can't remember what people thought it might be?
In my opinion Nelson Bay is the worst map in Rush.
Anyways.. About replacing the DM server with another 24/7 server. I recommend "Timeless 24/7 Laguna Alta CQ"
Look at the chart:
4905
This is from our Timeless CQ server.
Laguna Alta is by far the most popular map on CQ, I think we should atleast try it 24/7.
UNR3AL V1P3R
24-07-2010, 19:40
just wondering while theres talk about servers. is there gonna be any kind of ping limit put in place?
i,m sure some of you would of noticed that when the avg ping is 100 - 200 across the server its normaly a good game for all.
its only when players with pings higher than 250 start playing it seem to go well kind of stupid those with low pings die alot and those with high just dont seem to wanna!
i know some of our memebers mite have high pings due to where they live in the world but cant we find out who gets the highest ping and base it on that?
it also would do another job as most hacker/cheats have higher pings than avg due to the lag/delay by the hack they are running.
just thought i put it out there for food for thought!
P.s im quite happy to play any map any game type.
but as we all know a player wont stay in a server where they get their ass hand to them!
Chriss-FIN-
24-07-2010, 23:37
Dont close CQ all maps, i think its is the best server what we have. There is some really nice battles when its up and teams are balanced...
Also 24/7 servers gets quite boring if you play longer time...
Dont close CQ all maps, i think its is the best server what we have. There is some really nice battles when its up and teams are balanced...
Also 24/7 servers gets quite boring if you play longer time...
Tell that to the guy that was on valpara for over 9 hours straight ;)
In my opinion Nelson Bay is the worst map in Rush.
I personally love Nelson Bay. I get a smile on my face every time I see it loading. :)
I've looked around a bit and it seems like it is one of those maps that you either love or hate. A lot of people seem to dislike it because of the fact that the attacking team can easily get completely raped if the defending team is too good. The people who like it usually prefer infantry-focused maps and favor the fact that there are basically no vehicles at all on it at all. That is part of why I like it.
I would like a 24/7 Nelson Bay server and I would definitely play on it. Tho, if we do not have enough people here who share my opinion then we will simply not get it started due to lack of interest.
Look at the chart:
4905
This is from our Timeless CQ server.
Laguna Alta is by far the most popular map on CQ, I think we should atleast try it 24/7.
Do you know how that "favorite map" chart acually works? Is it just based on how much time the server is running each map? If that is the case then that might just as well mean that the server most often dies on that map and stays there, empty, all night. Or is it based on the amount of player hours on the map or w/e?
Dont close CQ all maps, i think its is the best server what we have. There is some really nice battles when its up and teams are balanced...
Also 24/7 servers gets quite boring if you play longer time...
I personally love Conquest as most of you know already, but after spending the better part of the day trying to fill it, I'm kind of starting to wonder if it is actually worth it. Sure, we actually did get it full, on the third attempt, where each of the previous attempts had taken several hours each.
If we can actually get it full early (as in 9 or 10 UK time), EVERY day, then I think that it will pick up again because people will start to add it to favorites and they will have it in their history etc. The problem is that we have several regulars and admins who strongly prefer rush over Conquest and might not be that motivated to help start it.
Personally I'm just hoping that they will add some new REALLY good CQ maps in the next map pack so that we have a CQ counterpart of Valparaiso that we can use to start it up every day.
Do you know how that "favorite map" chart acually works? Is it just based on how much time the server is running each map? If that is the case then that might just as well mean that the server most often dies on that map and stays there, empty, all night. Or is it based on the amount of player hours on the map or w/e?
Time spent on the map, thats what the chart is. Alta is the first map in the rotation, and its in there twice, the CQ one needs tweaking a little, I'll do it when I;m home. The easiest one to start the server on is panama canal.
So, so far we have seen the following suggestions:
1. Timeless 05 - All Rush
2. Timeless 05 - Infantry Rush
3. Timeless 05 - Vehicle Rush
4. Timeless 05 - Arica Harbor 24/7
5. Timeless 05 - Nelson Bay 24/7
6. Timeless 05 - Isla Inocentes 24/7
7. Timeless 05 - Laguna Presa 24/7
8. Timeless 05 - Jungle Rush
9. Timeless 05 - Winter Rush
10. Timeless 05 - Desert Rush
11. Timeless 05 - Laguna Alta CQ 24/7
12. Timeless 05 - Panama Canal CQ 24/7
From what I see so far in this thread the suggestions with most support are:
5. Timeless 05 - Nelson Bay 24/7
8. Timeless 05 - Jungle Rush
If noone else has more suggestions, then maybe we can proceed with this as soon as possible? Perhaps put it to a vote/poll and see which one to go with, or perhaps just try one of them for a few days?
ima tag a poll onto this in a second if i can work it out.
Ok poll us up, only 10 choices, so we had to improvise
1st option is vehicle or infantry, if you vote this option, please post in the thread, saying exactly which one you want....
Also, we had to remove all rush, again, post stating that you want this server if you want it, and i will read through posts PAST THIS POINT and add any posts up as votes.
I vote for infantry
I vote for all maps
I guess I vote for infantry and all maps as well and of course all of the options that I selected in the poll.
Hard to vote as i like all maps and modes, but i supose i,d prefer inf in only in rush or cq, Tanks are a pain in the *** when your tring to start the server. mabe add vhic's after one rotation ( dont know if that could be done)
I'll help fill rush but not with one map only :P its a lil boring playing the same map over and over, so i play on "all map"-servers.
I also help fill cq if im in the mood... You know what... If Im in the mood... Ill help fill anything eccept squad rush and squad deathmatch... well... maybe deathmatch if its not hardcore...
Its pretty bad teamwork even with minimap and the rest of the shizzle :P
So... Ill help with anything as long as Im in the right mood and do have the time for it. Sometimes its just not worth trying to start something when you know youve only got one hour play time, then i want a good game on a full server!
Dont know what to vote for...
XxXButcher
25-07-2010, 17:46
its a lil boring playing the same map over and over
Says the one who made his 3 stars on Tampa lol
vote for what you think will be popular
Says the one who made his 3 stars on Tampa lol
Bah, That was only cause NS didnt work and there was no other server with all maps rotating :P
I dont think anyone is like me when it comes to that.
Best thing ever would be if a random generator made every friggin map I say :D
NEVER ever the same !!
*edit* Oh, and make that four stars ;)
uuuuhm imagine a map generator... Never playing the same map.. Always different obstacles. That sounds like heaven to me ;)
slightly off topic here:offtopic:
but i'm sure i remember a game, an RTS like red alert which had a random map generator, can anyone remember this?
We need a map or sequence of maps which will be very popular, highly rated etc, bear this in mind.
slightly off topic here:offtopic:
but i'm sure i remember a game, an RTS like red alert which had a random map generator, can anyone remember this?
We need a map or sequence of maps which will be very popular, highly rated etc, bear this in mind.
Rise of nations and age of empires have no set maps.
Only themes which are used to generate the landscapes.
Back on topic......
It's looking like jungle rush is a winner here, it comes with valpara which is an added bonus :D
Cast your support people, come on, lets see what everyone wants ;)
I'm all for jungle. I also recommend having a mixed server with the most popular maps for both CQ and Rush on a rotation, since it can get a bit boring playing the same thing over and over :)
I would also like to try a mixed game mode server at some point, but from what Hornet told me about his experiences with such servers it might be a risky setup. In my opinion we should probably wait with that until we get another server that needs changing. Also, if we were to do such a server, which maps are actually the popular CQ maps? Does anyone really know?
As i've said the mixed mode servers have 2 issues with players leaving, map change and mode change.
I like the idea of Jungle rush too, i think it'll be a popular server. CQ and mixed titan(2142) also need looking at so keep discussing configuration/combinations.
Since we have actually managed to start CQ a bit more often the last few days I would actually love to keep it running the CQ game mode, but I am all for changing it's map rotation if anyone has any good suggestions.
Chriss-FIN-
26-07-2010, 11:50
Since we have actually managed to start CQ a bit more often the last few days I would actually love to keep it running the CQ game mode, but I am all for changing it's map rotation if anyone has any good suggestions.
Yeh, it was full yesterday before the server crashed :(
But maybe new rotation would make it easier to start, maybe we should spy is there 24/7 CQ maps at anyone and put that first on a rotation...
Are we excluding any other possibility now that the Poll is up?
Because I think we could just as well experiment with different settings on that server.
Make it modified, Kill cam off etc.. There are a lot of popular servers out there that are modified.
It cant be too hard to just change settings on 05 DM. We could use it for experiments, see what happens when we change it to this and that.. If people keep playing on it, well then we know which settings to keep and which ones not to keep.
While we discuss what to make of 05 as a final, can´t we try out different settings now?? DM is empty 24/7, might just as well try something out on it.
Well, DM isn't quit empty 24/7. It does get started once in a while, and when it gets started it is usually a lot of fun. But the fact is that it is always the last one to get started and usually the first one to die. So if we are to change any server then that is the one.
In my opinion we could of course experiment with different settings on it, but the fact is that it takes quite a while to see if one setup is popular or not. And I can imagine that it will take even longer when it comes to "modified" servers because they rely 100% on players adding it to favorites and joining through the history etc. I am guessing that such a server would be almost impossible to start in the beginning. This makes me wonder if it is actually worth it.
We have a whole bunch of ideas and suggestions here. I think that we should just try the most popular one of those and see how it goes.
I think we need a server which has potential to be popular right now... its a waste as it is, the reason for this thread.
The vote is for most popular opinion here, it was added after my 1st post. The outcome may be different to the vote but we need to discuss this.
IMO we should stick jungle on now while we debate, at least its something right now.
Faceless
26-07-2010, 15:14
i changed the dm server to jungle rush
i only see map for jungle like
Valparaiso and Laguna presa
which one else????
I would say that Isla Inocentes is a Jungle map as well, but those three are probably all ofthem.
Map order is : Valparaiso, Laguna Presa, Isla Inocentes. :cool:
Timeless Jungle, its like a jungle sometimes, which makes me wonder, how I keep on goin' under :brap:
OK OK i do see the point, i already seen this argument before i suggested it but 'tropical' was my other idea... but we do need 3 maps here.
I anticipated this and this argument, as soon as I realised the potential that Bad Company 'Vietnam' has ;)
I think this jungle thingi has potential, its catchy and ready for a vietnam map or 2 :good3:
Let it go, lets see what it can do.
From the looks of it, its going to be treated as practically 2 seperate games hornet.
Vietnam is going to have new weapons, new teams, and new stats apparantly. Im not even sure they going to let us do 2 on 1 server