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kurk_will_mutiny
27-03-2010, 22:09
Hey, I've got a flash new idea.
When the other team has substantially less players...try swapping thus making things even and ensuring everyone's enjoyment rather than concerning yourself with your own K/D ratio.
You'd think this was basic stuff but apparently not.
Cheers!
InvaderTX
27-03-2010, 22:33
ohhhh what you mean kurko??? what is swap ?? what is balance???
I try hard to found where is the fun playing 7 vs 13 ...............
I was on a random server recently and my team had a few less players than the other one. I politely asked if a few people could swap to balance the teams, and they did! I was amazed they actually paid attention, and it saved the server from dieing.
On Timeless servers no one answers... :P
But one problem is, that often we have already switched ones to keep teams even, but then the side we switch to kicks ass because we are all on TS and keeping things tactical. Then we canīt switch back (so it is said)
I still think that itīs possible to switch all the time it just takes longer when it first says "Youīve switched teams too often, try again later". See my post http://www.timelessgaming.com/timeless/forum/showthread.php?8515-How-to-switch-teams-in-BC2&highlight=How+to+switch
But the next thing Dice is developing is auto balance, so we just need to hang in there :)
Teams were really bad earlier tonight....
was 12 vs 20, with at least 5 timeless players on the other side
Me and kharak threw up several server messages using the !s, which were clearly visible, what was done about it? nothing
Not one of you guys switched, so I had to resort to threatening random kicks, that was how low I had to go.
At that point, speedy and his mates kindly switched team, thank you very much speedy.
When the teams got unbalanced later in the night, in favour of my team, it was unbeleivably fast untill the autobalance program was running.
If it gets bad again, I wont be so patient with the server messages, my team was getting fed up, I will start to random kick much sooner, and when I say random, I mean random, no one is exempt, I put my finger on the screen, press tab, and kick whoever it is. It can be ashoof for all I care, if I have to resort to random kicking, it will be completely random, you are just as resposible as admins for keeping the teams balanced as anyone else, if not more responsible
all well and good dax mate, but you can switch more than once
I cant no matter what I try, and tbh if its a full server I aint going to leave the server just for some noob to come in and switch to the larger side anyway.
there must be more we can do about this, surely??
Teams were really bad earlier tonight....
was 12 vs 20, with at least 5 timeless players on the other side
Me and kharak threw up several server messages using the !s, which were clearly visible, what was done about it? nothing
Not one of you guys switched, so I had to resort to threatening random kicks, that was how low I had to go.
At that point, speedy and his mates kindly switched team, thank you very much speedy.
When the teams got unbalanced later in the night, in favour of my team, it was unbeleivably fast untill the autobalance program was running.
If it gets bad again, I wont be so patient with the server messages, my team was getting fed up, I will start to random kick much sooner, and when I say random, I mean random, no one is exempt, I put my finger on the screen, press tab, and kick whoever it is. It can be ashoof for all I care, if I have to resort to random kicking, it will be completely random, you are just as resposible as admins for keeping the teams balanced as anyone else, if not more responsible
Sounds like a power trip dax.
If you feel like this Dax, you're best to leave yourself.
My advice.... leave the server, switch if you please, kick random strangers or at least bear with the game until the auto-balance patch arrives.
XxXButcher
08-04-2010, 09:14
I often can't switch in general... :dunno:
buggy game thingi :punish:
You might hit the wrong people with "random" kicks...
DN-Ghost-
08-04-2010, 11:29
My advice is until the patch comes use the program we use on the ex bog uk server autokick last person joined when not balancing teams.
So Dax keeps cool and the teams fair and when people leave the server because they don`t like it they are in my eyes the same like cheaters/glitchers.
you want me to leave the server and make the teams more unbalanced? yeah, because that makes sense......
kurk_will_mutiny
08-04-2010, 14:54
...but swapping channels on TS and threatening to kick Olorian and I makes sense? ha ha ha - lets hear another one? It was unbalanced for about five minutes and quickly fixed itself. The server is more popular since the PB thingi change and people joining is the best way to fix the problem. Relax young man.
Im not gonna piss off the hornets nest now sticking out my head here so be patient if i may say it in the wrong way here, When we are on Rush server its clearly more unfair if the attackin team are more even if it is only 3 persons and the 12 vs 20 yesterday was just pure rape i joined 2 sec later dead happened to me 3 times in a row that makes not a good game and makes people leave even myself and i dont mind a challenge but that was pure bullshit at a point and yes daxie m8 you might overreact with random kicks even though i agreed at a point in ts but as it cooled down i realized ONE big issue is that Some people in Rush only Likes to attack not defend thats why they switch also. And some wants to play with their M8:s Like we that are on TS wanna play on 1 side aswell cuz we can bring more tactics into the game.
And we cant do so much about it until they fix the Autobalance thingy. i also agree with kurkobot that switch teamspeak side and threat people thats not the right way to do either after all we are timeless people we know better than that, and even if it was only 5 minutes it was uneven Kurkobot its still the time for the attackers to get an advantage and storm the M-com sites and hold them with 8 more players on their side so after all we need to have an discussion or post with this So we can resolve the issue and not get angry or pissed of on some of forum members Admins or no admins we are equal ingame more or less.
So i dont want any people to get pissed off @ me now i never get pissed off at any of youz and i respect everyone in here. So letīs make this a thing to resolve in the future so it wont happen again quz i dont like when some get angry at each other and will not join TS and such due to that (been there, done that, different game).
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We all get p'd off with the game esp for the auto balance thingi.
If you can't keep your cool, then leave the game, if you gotta resort in kicking your fellow admins and buddies then this would also piss them off too!
what i'm saying here is 2 wrongs don't make a right.
If there is a small amount of players then one or 2 should switch, kicking in this situation is not good for the server
If there are many players in the server but the server is unbalanced then 2-3 kicks fix this as others join the once weaker team strengthens up quickly.
I've kicked a few random players in my last few unbalanced games and it instantly balances out prolonging the longevity of the server
BUT this is only a short term fix.
Keep your cool Dax, we all get pissed about this, there should be a patch soon and maybe i'll play more also, then.
Pegg said it really well.
Oh, is the team balance in work or is the warning still just a warning without anything happening?
Me and bertie had a wonderful idea (which we stole)
TEAM SCRAMBLE!
at the end of every round (or probably 2) we shuffle the teams :P
The team scramble Iīve experienced on some 2142 servers. Itīs quite efficient at balancing the teams, but the rounds in BC2 are too quickly finished.
If we would go with a Team Mix up, then I suggest after every 6-8 rounds.
Another issue is clans. Iīve seen our servers get started just because clans join in. One clan member joins a server by 'Play now' and then 4 other clan members join on him through friendslist. If we scramble the teams too often clans might leave cause they wanna play on the same side. On the other hand again, clans are also a lot of the times the ones responsible for unbalancing teams, because they teamswitch to get on the same side as their clan members.
I donīt understand why Dice havenīt developed an autobalance like the one in 2142. It was and is excellent! You canīt switch to the other side if there are more players on it and with autobalance ON, players that are not in squads get switched to the side with lower players on it on death. Itīs excellent!
you cant switch against the balance in the R9 (and R10 due next week along with client R7) as far as I am aware, it will also switch players to a smaller side.
this of course is how DICE say it works, Pompey says it does work effecitivelly, and i must admit, a full day of playing, and i didnt see any unbalanced teams (number wise)
Did R9īs autobalance work? I didnīt notice any difference in balance when we had R9.
And does Pompey work for Dice?
And you saying R10 is due in next week, but what do you mean about R7 ?
hehe lots of question but Iīm a little confused now. I havenīt playe BC2 today, have they changed the R9 patch or something?
we havnt been running R9, due to the filling issues, pompey has had his full for over 72 hours with R9 on, and punkbuster off.
He doesnt work for DICE, but he has a server of his own.
R7 is the 7th client patch that is coming out, which should fix the problems that caused zero server population
There are 2 types of patch.
Server patch = 10th version so far, changes how the game server behaves
Client patch = 7th version so far, changes how your game behaves, offline and online, regardless of server patch value