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mine are really good, the game looks beautiful with nice effects and no slowing down and the gameplay is very pleasant and looks balanced.
moving around is smooth even with all the junk laying on the floor from the destructible environment, to see how certain areas change in the heavy fighting spots is quite something.
it is maybe only 32 players maximum but the battles are very dynamic with more than one objective to defend or attack, the squadplay should be :good1:
are the soldiers forbidden to prone in BC2? i couldn't find the key
I dont think there's a prone. I'm sure I read somewhere there is not.
I hate it when it lags, i was knackered after a few mins of it, deja vu, it was like groundhog day !
Run 20 meters, jump over a wall, aim and....... back to the 20 meter run again, jump over the wall, jump over the wall and repeat lolz
I like the gfx and special effects.
I personally run my gfx at 1600x1200 2xAA 16xAF Everything on HIGH and shadows on MEDIUM, nice and smooth on these settings and room for some more increases.
A Nice Powerful gfx card for DX11 should max it out this year. :)
What all have experienced yesterday... Extreme lag!!! Crash to desktop again and again...
At first I could go in on the server browser, but took a long time before the browser showed the ping for all the servers, sometimes not at all.. And when connecting to servers through the browser, I lost connection everytime, It worked for me once to join a server via the server browser. Later it got impossible to access server browser as the game crashed to desktop everytime I clicked it..
In game I chatted to some guys about the lag, theyīd been on the server for a long time and they said that the servers seemed to be having extreme lag at the start of every round.. Might be because of all the players reloading the level.
There were also about 3-4 times in every round that the server lags extremely for 1-2 min.. Sometimes everything freezes ingame and all you can do is wait.. Everytime except for once the game continued after this massive lag spike.
Other than that! Awesome action! Took me a long time to find a server that had a good ping, because had to go by "Play now" and it has a tendancy to put me on servers in australia..
Had some extremely good rounds.. The sniper I couldnīt really figure out, mostly because of the lag.. aim at a guy and bang suddenly there is a lag and the aim shifts to where I was aiming at before.. etc..
I found the hitbox to be quite good, I could kill guys that were running across before me, somehow it seemed as if the game accumalates the aim.. even when it was quite laggy, it still worked quite well.
I sure will look forward to getting the full version and a hopefully at that time no lag spikes :)
My review of my 2 hours in BC2 :)
Kharak.
CaptPlissken
01-02-2010, 18:59
2/10 thus far - after just 10 mins of play. No prone for a start - so what is the point? Its turned into this 'thing' like MW2. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOO
sababoi99
01-02-2010, 20:43
all is good with the xbox :)
you need more than 10 mins of play captain.
I didn't know what was going on to start with but after a few games you will see that this is a great game for squad play.
graphics look good and i can shoot a gun in this game.
10/10
CaptPlissken
01-02-2010, 22:34
no prone = no buy! its clearly become a console game! :(
CaptPlissken
02-02-2010, 21:27
you need more than 10 mins of play captain.
I didn't know what was going on to start with but after a few games you will see that this is a great game for squad play.
graphics look good and i can shoot a gun in this game.
10/10
Well i have played some more today. Graphics are poo but since its beta, I wont hold that against it. Its all but impossible to make out the enemy, sniper/recon is pointless and the lag, oh man! Ive managed to get some good kills in with assault but thats all really. Right now, it is slipping further down the NO BUY list as it really is a console afterbirth of a game
not any lag problems here.
graphics are looking good for me with a few bugs.
What moo drugs have you been taking CaptPlissken?!
Just because prone isn't in the game doesn't make it a bad shooter. I have been playing as a sniper (I really love sniping!) and haven't once wished I could go prone yet. I also like the way that you unlock common-pool weapons that any class can use, so I can switch to an auto shotgun with my sniper and still use the rest of my sniper's equipment.
The way the camera shakes as things explode and debris flies everywhere and the sounds that go with it really pull me into the game and make it a really good experience.
Well i have played some more today. Graphics are poo but since its beta, I wont hold that against it. Its all but impossible to make out the enemy, sniper/recon is pointless and the lag, oh man! Ive managed to get some good kills in with assault but thats all really. Right now, it is slipping further down the NO BUY list as it really is a console afterbirth of a game
What graphics card and CPU have you got and how much RAM are you using? what settings are you running this game on?
XxXButcher
03-02-2010, 17:50
- too high bullit drop at the sniper rifles
- spread and shaking of the gun are not syncron (gun shakes to the left, bullit goes to the right)
- too much spread for the modern rifles... ak-47 kicks like a mule, SCAR or XM8 don't, but they all shake the same and the bullits go into nowhere
- too high bullit drop at the sniper rifles
- spread and shaking of the gun are not syncron (gun shakes to the left, bullit goes to the right)
- too much spread for the modern rifles... ak-47 kicks like a mule, SCAR or XM8 don't, but they all shake the same and the bullits go into nowhere
itīs a BETA!
Hardcore mode will also sort out the lack of power that some weapons have.
kurk_will_mutiny
04-02-2010, 01:38
Loving it.
The sound effects in particular are rad.
Only one instance of lag in 10hrs of play - I left the server and found another one = fixed.
Couldn't care less about prone - its slows games down and encourages people to sit in a bush instead of taking objectives.
Most of bullshit comments I've read about this game are the same bullshit comments I remember from players coming from BF2 to BF2142. It seems most people just want the same game over and over again and any detraction from that is viewed with hostility. Tired generic gamer monologues - blah.
Chriss-FIN-
04-02-2010, 21:29
Its great and even better when having familiar squad with mic's. I love destructionable enviroment, sounds are great, they have realy managed to create good battle feeling even with "only" 32 players.
I think its slipped away from BF2 and BF2142 style, but when we can play conquest maps it might change :D Also i dont know was this even supposed to be sequel to bf2142, i think not...
some people here (:moo:) are expecting the same game again....that isnt what a new game is about..
If they wanted to release the same game again, they would release battlefield 3 / 2242 (or whatever)
They don't want to do that, so a few years ago, they created a sub franchise, within battlefield, with 'bad company' for the consoles. It's not the same game as BF2/2142, because its not supposed to be, its supposed to be a new, dynamic game, under the heading of battlefield. Consider yourself lucky they have attempted to bring it to PC, it is a console title, and they have made every effort to bring it properly to PC.
It retains what people love about battlefield, squadplay, teamwork etc, while creating a newer fast paced and quite frankly, from first impression, fantastic game.
So its missing prone, so what? You have a ghillie suit, hide in a bush, your practically invisible.
So it's not got any RDX to hop with? Deal with it, pick up a gun, and get good at something else
So it's got some weapon balance issues, so what? Thats the whole point of the beta
What about the knife then? Would you like the knife from 2142 back, with the terrible hit box's and rubber knife
The point that some people are making, is that its just a console game. Well, yes your right, it is a console game, designed with the console in mind. But I'll put it this way to you, would you rather DICE didn't make a substantial effort to recreate their top of the range FPS onto PC, or just leave you hanging, waiting, pondering, playing outdated shooters untill they release battlefield 3? whenever that may be.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that makes it almost 100% certain, that someone will disagree with yours, you dont like the fact that prone is missing, some people love it, you dont like the game mode, others do. There are bound to be things you dont like in the game, its impossible to create a game like that, and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on that.
In summary, it's not the next 2142, or battlefield 2, it's a new game, it's Bad Company, and personally I like it, if you dont, then don't play it, sit out as we play this one, and wait for the next shooter that has things you don't like, you shouldn't rate a game based on one thing, or one map/gamemode. If you play the whole game and don't find something you like, your probably trying not to like it. Pick up all the kits, play through all the game modes (in full version) and then tell me you don't like it, then you've made an educated decision, and you should probably find a different game.
Personally, I'd give it a 9/10, it's a greta fast paced game, and considering the fact that this is DICE's first ever engine fully developed by then, after 10 years of using Refractor 2, they have done one hell of a job
Dax :dax:
XxXButcher
05-02-2010, 11:21
So it's not got any RDX to hop with? Deal with it, pick up a gun, and get good at something else
RDX hopping works, but you die aswell :electric:
CaptPlissken
06-02-2010, 00:58
some people here (:moo:) are expecting the same game again....that isnt what a new game is about..
If they wanted to release the same game again, they would release battlefield 3 / 2242 (or whatever)
They don't want to do that, so a few years ago, they created a sub franchise, within battlefield, with 'bad company' for the consoles. It's not the same game as BF2/2142, because its not supposed to be, its supposed to be a new, dynamic game, under the heading of battlefield. Consider yourself lucky they have attempted to bring it to PC, it is a console title, and they have made every effort to bring it properly to PC.
It retains what people love about battlefield, squadplay, teamwork etc, while creating a newer fast paced and quite frankly, from first impression, fantastic game.
So its missing prone, so what? You have a ghillie suit, hide in a bush, your practically invisible.
So it's not got any RDX to hop with? Deal with it, pick up a gun, and get good at something else
So it's got some weapon balance issues, so what? Thats the whole point of the beta
What about the knife then? Would you like the knife from 2142 back, with the terrible hit box's and rubber knife
The point that some people are making, is that its just a console game. Well, yes your right, it is a console game, designed with the console in mind. But I'll put it this way to you, would you rather DICE didn't make a substantial effort to recreate their top of the range FPS onto PC, or just leave you hanging, waiting, pondering, playing outdated shooters untill they release battlefield 3? whenever that may be.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that makes it almost 100% certain, that someone will disagree with yours, you dont like the fact that prone is missing, some people love it, you dont like the game mode, others do. There are bound to be things you dont like in the game, its impossible to create a game like that, and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on that.
In summary, it's not the next 2142, or battlefield 2, it's a new game, it's Bad Company, and personally I like it, if you dont, then don't play it, sit out as we play this one, and wait for the next shooter that has things you don't like, you shouldn't rate a game based on one thing, or one map/gamemode. If you play the whole game and don't find something you like, your probably trying not to like it. Pick up all the kits, play through all the game modes (in full version) and then tell me you don't like it, then you've made an educated decision, and you should probably find a different game.
Personally, I'd give it a 9/10, it's a greta fast paced game, and considering the fact that this is DICE's first ever engine fully developed by then, after 10 years of using Refractor 2, they have done one hell of a job
Dax :dax:
And I will be. The more I play it, the more is turns into yet another average run of the mill fps game. Hell, you cant even select your unlocks! Its not a ground breaking game, genre changing - just average. I dont expect it to be another bf2142 but after that, this needed to be special to beat that and its not. A Battlefield 3 wont come because clearly DICE have turned into a console developer....
And I will be. The more I play it, the more is turns into yet another average run of the mill fps game. Hell, you cant even select your unlocks! Its not a ground breaking game, genre changing - just average. I dont expect it to be another bf2142 but after that, this needed to be special to beat that and its not. A Battlefield 3 wont come because clearly DICE have turned into a console developer....
Hey Plissken man! :)
I donīt know exactly what it is you so dislike about it.. I can only tell for my side of this deal.
I expected it to be a BF2 with destructible enviroment, but I have also played BC for Xbox and well that game surely was NOTHING like any of the prior BF games, but it was fun.. It was not BF2142 fun, because it lacked tactics.. And as always itīs hard to get a tactical game for a console, because the options and comunications are not as easy as with PCīs.. But this BC2 is a lot more tactical. Donīt know what exactly it is, might be Vent that has been giving me such a blast in this game, but all I can say is that this game will be awesome when it is finished.. This is a beta and it has a lot of flaws in it, but as the Combat Testing guys say, you will be amazed how much Dice manages to change in short time. Just hang in there.
When I first played the BC2 beta, I was also shocked that I couldnīt go prone and thougth to myself "This sucks!".. And hoped "Well this is just a Beta; they will include it in the retail game". I still continued playing and then I read that they will not include prone in the finished product, but after playing so much I noticed that I really didīnt need it.. I just needed felt that I needed it because I had the BF2142 mentality, this game is different.
Just give it a chance, come play with us and join Vent! Weīve been having an awesome time together! :)
CaptPlissken
06-02-2010, 10:23
Well prone isnt coming, DICE have said that. See, I own a PC because I like playing PC games, not some shoddy console port. I have just about gotten over the no prone but was hoping to unlock some recon features by playing as either assault or medic but in traditional lazy developing fashion - you cant any more. It pre-selects the unlocks for you, so you cant even customise your experience. Now that IS poor.
Trying to figure out who the enemy is, again is a pain in the arse. I know the map is called rush but thats exactly what it is. You rush in to battle, die, spawn, rush in to battle, kill a couple, die, respawn - repeat until totally bored. There are NO tactics involed at all, the menu is slow, server loading is slow and you cant even adjust the servers to pick favourites, or best latency etc.
And where are you all playing? No one is on my friends list.
I have to agree with Kharak, as regards to console port, we have DX11 version of BC2 here not some 'shoddy' DX9 console.
I personally seem to have a lot of unlocks, more than i ever seen in BF2142 and this is just the beta unlocks, looks like there is a lot of room for even more unlocks and weapons.
So...THIS BETA: we have more unlocks, we have only 1 map and only 1 game type 'rush' gfx are very good, i love the destruction, the tank and gunship are awesome,
Squad play has to exist, you need a determined team to win at rush (defence or attack) it seems everything else is pretty good imo
Aaaand we need this change and its a good one. I see 10 maps and 4 play types with the game release and with just the Beta alone i feel i've had a decent game already.
but 'we have no prone' hmm
I have to agree with Kharak, as regards to console port, we have DX11 version of BC2 here not some 'shoddy' DX9 console.
After u install the Beta the DX-Version is set to autodetect in the Setting.ini, but it normaly it loads DX9 ( even when u have win7 and DX11 supporting Graphiccard ) and not the higher of ur system possible Versions. Here is a Tool for Playes to set it manualy correct : http://www.bf-games.net/download/2780/bad_company_2_beta_configurator.html
U could also define it in the Settings.ini under C:\User\urAccountName\Personal Documents\BFBC2Beta\ open the Settings.ini with an texteditor and type 9, 10 or 11 behind DXversion =
Its also possible to deaktivate the Bloom-effect
Still a few things to say about the functions of this beta :
1. The Buddylist system is now working ( which was not at the beginning ), but u both ( u and the one u want to add ) have to be in game and already logged in.
2. The AA ( Anti-Aliasing ) seem still not working correct, seen on the powercables and the pipe near the water. Doesnt matter u do 1xAA or 16xAA the pipe has the same pixels at the end, same counts for the powercables at the 1st two bombspots.
3. The settings for Sound ( HIFI, HOME CINEMA etc ) in the game menue are not saving, u have to define it new every time u log in ( DICE already mentioned this in a post, they said it will be fixed in the final game )
4. The Mortar of the Sniper is set to destroying the fun of gameplay because u can use it 2-3 times per minute. Normaly there are playing minimum 5 Sniper in a team, now do the math : when the game goes 15 minutes it is 5x3x15 and u have the count of how many attilerys going down thís round ( only out from ur team, do x2 for the enemy team too and u will laugh ). They have to limit this for maybe using it 3 times a round or so, or give a spyglass to every class u can play with.
The not prone-poss is bad ye, it brings it more into a console-supermario-arcade, but the game has more became-better-features now. For example : when u join a server trough ur buddylist u are automaticly in the squad of ur friend if u got switched to his team. Maybe u know it or not, the Issue-Orders ( normaly done by holding Q or T in BF2142 ) are all the same in BFBC2, if u request something ( ammo, health, pick up, jump out, etc) or want u to spot something u just have to press Q.Iin this Game every order which was normaly done with T in 2142 is now also on Q, so just use Q for everything ( including squad attack and defend orders ). I f u want more tricks and knowledge about Bad Company 2 ask me.
My overall opinion about BFBC2 as Gameprogrammer : Best Game until yet :)
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that thing with Q is what bugs me the most... It rarely spots when wanted to... and giving orders doesnt always work.
I actually would rather have the Q and T commands from 2142, than prone in the game.. This Q thing is a major lack in tactics in my opinion.
Forgot to say, if u need ammo or a medic there are mini-size symbols over the soldiers head if u are wounded or low with ammo. Just look on a medic and press Q, ur soldier will say then : I need a medic. Or need ammo, search for an assault class soldier of ur team and press Q, ur soldier will say : I could need some ammo . To give a squad order ( it gives special points and an extra badge for defend and attack ) jus look on a bombspot and Q and ur Soldier will say : Attack these Coordinates/ Defend these Coordinates.
Damn there are hundreds of tricks and gameplaytactics i want to share with u, maybe i go for a How to-Guide Tutorial
Titan G , over and out ;)
that thing with Q is what bugs me the most... It rarely spots when wanted to... and giving orders doesnt always work.
I actually would rather have the Q and T commands from 2142, than prone in the game.. This Q thing is a major lack in tactics in my opinion.
It works perfect, even when u are behind a hill u can aim A or B spot and press Q ! and spotting works on every enemy inf or vehicle, test it, the trick is click more often on Q. Sometimes it will not work near woods, because even a leaf-texture-sprite can prevent the spotting ( even when the soldier is to 80 % visible, it simply means the engine doesnt count it as a valid Target ). Its Because u look trough the so called Alpha channel of the sprite, in the virtual universe the soldier is behind the sprite but u can see already 50-75 % of the soldier through the Alpha channel. Thats why ;) test it, press more often Q and also mor often on different bodyparts, personaly i often spot by looking enemys feet and spot them ;)
ArcAudios
17-02-2010, 20:34
Guys, I'd like to thank all of you for your reviews already, I have been looking forward to the game and think it looks great in vids. Has been useful to hear all your opinion on it 'cos I value your thoughts as regular players of 2142. As Hornet requested can anyone give detail on their GFX card and RAM, I use a dated Rock Laptop for any gaming time and I doubt it will cope with BFBC2. I fear it's a new GFX card for me or otherwise I'll be playing it on the PS3 which is def not the route I want to take as you'll not be there! - pls note I don't play PS3 much at all but also think this will look good on a 46'' tv. If you let me know what you're running the beta on it would give me something to go on. At present time I trust I need a new GFX card and may have to continue playing 2142 until there's only one server left......
regards and best wishes
Iīm running the game with:
Core i7 920
Radeon HD 4800
8 gb ram
For me it seems as if the GFX is my problem. I keep pretty much everything in settings on LOW.. So I can have as high fps as possible. I will buy a better GFX card for when the game is released, but with my current GFX card the Beta is definatly playable :)
XxXButcher
17-02-2010, 22:09
I play with:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+
Sapphire ATI X1950 Pro
6 GB RAM
Windows 7
I can play it, but it's very laggy for me... dunno if it's bad pc or bad internet (probably both),
so I use a tank for sniping xD
Chriss-FIN-
18-02-2010, 16:18
I have stock Q9550, HD4890 and 4 gig memory.
Everything high, but shadows low and no bloom -> frames around 60-70, but at huge explosions it drops to 35-40 fps. But Dice has said that there will be performance tweaks at final game...
Lets hope there are also better gfx. I want fully functioning AA.
E7400 ( Oc to 3,4 Ghz, running 35 degrees idle and 45 on load )
4 GB DDR2 800 ( CL4 )
HD 5770 1 GB
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
Currently i running BFBC2 on 1280x1024 pixel Screen Resolution. Water and Shadows is set to low, Bloom off, all other Details to middle. I get around 40-50 fps ( same fps when all set to high, but the hitreg is a lil better on middle ) and run nearly same stats, k/d s like in 2142 ( best round in BFBC2 was 70 kills and 5 deaths ).
:) Cant wait to play the other maps
Intel i7 975 Extreme @ 3.33GHz
6GB Corsair XMS3 PC3-10666
Asus GTX285
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
I run the game at 2560x1600 with Detail and Textures set to High. Shadows are set to Low and effects are set to Medium. I have the Bloom enabled because it doesn't look as good when it's off. It used to run a little choppy before, but after the new patch it runs very smoothly and is great to play. I don't know the exact fps I'm getting but I don't notice any drops.
Speedstar1776
19-02-2010, 22:38
some news about DX11 and BC2
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,705197/Battlefield-Bad-Company-2-x-New-tech-info-about-the-DX11-game/News/
i hope the DX11 does look like that
i hope the DX11 does look like that
Where else have the screens come from? These are screens from the full rendered BC2. Looks like a new gfx card for me on the horizon.
Speedstar1776
20-02-2010, 17:20
http://blogs.amd.com/how-to/2009/11/16/11-days-of-directx%C2%AE-11-day-six-dice/
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/02/19/bad-company-2-pc-graphics-details.aspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F085bV-OXA&feature=related Super Widescreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlRPfeDyFKU BC2 Eyefinity :)
ArcAudios
25-02-2010, 20:30
Thanks Guys, after a good look at your posts am buying it regardless and will cross my fingers for mid-level performance but may opt for a new GFX card for it. Appreciated, see you all sn.