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sababoi99
04-01-2010, 15:21
hey guys :)
im looking for a pc which i can use for gaming (:P)
something cheap (in euros if possible)
good gfx card more then 2gb of ram
this is new to me because i dont know much about PCs.
something below 1500euro
all help appreciated
:saba:
Xaphan666
04-01-2010, 17:19
1. What kind of games do you want to play?
2. How long do you want to use the system? Month, Years (1, 2, 3 ... )?
3. Do you want to install the hardware by urself?
-> If no, you are searching for a ready-to-use system?!
1. What kind of games do you want to play?
2. How long do you want to use the system? Month, Years (1, 2, 3 ... )?
3. Do you want to install the hardware by urself?
-> If no, you are searching for a ready-to-use system?!
4. Do you just want the base tower (or monitor keyboard mouse)
5. Do you want customized then built by someone else (i.e. an online store) or just off the shelf
sababoi99
06-01-2010, 16:53
1. 2142/bfbc2
2. a long time
3 ready made or could someone here help me put it together over voip?
4. need monitor and keyboard (nothing fancy)
5. i dont understand (sorry :P )
5. i dont understand (sorry :P )
are you happy choosing the bits yourself like i did? Or do you just want a mass produced off the shelf one?
I think the best choice will be buying one that's already built so it just works straight out of the box.
The Best pre-built gaming PC company that I know of is Alienware, but they are also one of the most expensive. The good thing about them is that you can choose all the components that they use from lists when you build a PC on their website. It also lets you choose a new monitor, and it comes with Alienware's own gaming keyboard/mouse.
Companies like Acer and Asus do decent cheaper gaming PCs but you can't choose which parts they use. You'll have to check their websites for the PC model and then they list the different versions of each model underneath.
Let us know the most amount of money you want to spend and the country you live in, then we can find the best PC for you.
sababoi99
10-01-2010, 20:44
k guys i prefer if you can guide me through stuff like GFX cards and stuff cus i dont have a clue about them :P and btw if i dont resopned to this thread its cus my laptop broke :( and pc world may give me money for a new pc or something like that
How much do you want to spend on your new PC?
Xaphan666
11-01-2010, 18:17
He already wrote how much he would spend^^
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something below 1500euro
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:saba:
He already wrote how much he would spend^^
LIES! Well I didn't see it anyhoo :P I'll see what I can find for that price.
Saba, make sure of these things, buy the best single gfx card u can afford, 4gb ram minimum, Intel quad core cpu and windows 7 64 bit.
This will cover you for DX10 games but in the interests of DX 11 then you will be best to wait a little for a better choice of gfx cards.
A 24" TFT monitor is a very good choice with resolutions of up to 1920x1200, it will sweeten the appearance of ur games.
A few decent ready built bases here : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?&groupid=43&catid=1270&subid=1443&sortby=priceDesc
Let us know how u get on sab ;)
sababoi99
14-01-2010, 21:55
can i use a hd tv as a monitor??
can i use a hd tv as a monitor??
do me a favour, turn it around, and tell me what imput are on the back, you probably can, thats what i do, but you'l have ot check your individual tv i think
can i use a hd tv as a monitor??
Yes of course, usually you got a VGA, HDMI or a DVI port of the back to plug ur GFX card into.
They make a decent game too, higher the resolution and the smaller the screen the better the game will look tho.
1080 LCD TV will look good sab. The plasma's are lower res.
sababoi99
14-01-2010, 22:33
im thinking of setting up a game section in my room lol. and i am thinking of getting a 30" LCD hdtv which can be used for both xbox and PC at the same place
I'm setting up exactly what you described Saba!
I'm going to use the Dell 3008WFP 30" monitor (2560x1600 res) which has DVI and HDMI ports (as well as others). It's super high resolution means the image quality will be awesome and a lot clearer because it's designed to be a PC monitor and not just a TV. I currently use Dell's older 30" monitor that doesn't have HDMI ports but it is such a great thing to use for PC gaming. You need really good hardware to run games at that res, but it is so sweet! I plan to use an HDMI audio/video switch so that I can run an Xbox 360, PS3 and my PC using the same monitor and the same surround sound speakers.
The Dell monitor: http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=752304
The HDMI audio/video switch: http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI%20switch%204x2_7_1audio.html
I'll have to buy some converter cables for my Creative 7.1 surround sound speakers so that I can run the same audio cables from my PC's sound card into the switch, but it should work fine after that. If you want to do the same thing you'll have to check the cables on your speakers!
sababoi99
19-01-2010, 22:20
i found yself a very nice 32" LCD hdtv 439.99euro and very good screen resolution..one problem its in pc world(althogh there is 3 hdmi cables,4 year insurance and built in dvd player..) should i go for it?
Seems expensive sab, shop around m8y.
Can you list the name and full spec of the TV here so we can compare it to other stuff please? I want to know the screen resolution, etc.
my local store, award winning comuters for entusiast not the general market http://www.eclipsecomputers.com
a quick system for £1,546.98 (no monitor)
System Configuration
Motherboard> Biostar T-Power X58A LGA1366, DDR3, SLI/XFire, GBLan, ATX £149.95
Processor> - Intel i7 950 3.06GHz LGA1366 Processor Retail £379.95
Memory Slot 1> 3Gb (3X1Gb) Tri Channel DDR3 1333Mhz Memory £51.75
Memory Slot 2>3Gb (3X1Gb) Tri Channel DDR3 1333Mhz Memory £51.75
Graphics Slot SLi 1> 1792Mb nVidia GeForce GTX 295 PCI-Expres VGA Card £300.95
Network> Onboard
Hard Drive 1> 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200rpm S-ATAII 32MB Hard Drive £59.17
Optical Device 1> NEC AD-5240S-0B 24x+/-DVD-R SATA DL DVD Writer - Black £15.50
Floppy Drive Bay 2> All-In-One Internal USB2.0 Card Reader (3.5 Inch Bay) -Black £5.95
Case> Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamers Case - No PSU £67.95
Power Supply Units> HiperPower 625Watt S625 24Pin Active PFC SLi Ready PSU £52.95
Speakers> 2500W PMPO 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers With Subwoofer £19.95
Keyboard> Logitech G15 Keyboard with GamePanel - Red Backlight £58.95
Mouse> MicroSoft Sidewinder Laser Gaming Mouse With Adj DPI - OEM £24.95
Surge Power Protector> 4 Way Surge Protector Power Extension £4.95
Operating System> MicroSoft Windows 7 Home Premium – 64Bit, OEM £66.96
Warranty> Bronze Eclipse System Warranty (1Year RTB + Premier30) £4.95
Speedstar1776
20-01-2010, 12:18
£1 = 1,14859918 Euro
£1,546.98 = 1.776,86 Euro
sabas budget is 1500 Euro, so there are 276,86 Euro to much!!!
ok try again
no monitor, keyboard or mouse
UK£ 1220.45 = 1402.50 Euros
System Configuration
Motherboard > Asrock P55 Extreme LGA1156, cFire,SLI, 7.1Snd, GBLan, ATX £105.75
Processor > Intel i7 870 2.93Ghz LGA1156 Processor - Retail £363.63
Memory Slot 1 > 4Gb (2X2Gb) Dual Channel DDR3 1333Mhz Memory £63.75
Memory Slot 2 > 4Gb (2X2Gb) Dual Channel DDR3 1333Mhz Memory £63.75
Graphics > 1792Mb nVidia GeForce GTX 295 PCI-Expres VGA Card £300.95
Network > Onboard
Hard Drive 1 > 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200rpm S-ATAII 32MB Hard Drive £59.17
Optical Device > NEC AD-5240S-0B 24x+/-DVD-R SATA DL DVD Writer - Black £15.50
Case > Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamers Case - No PSU £67.95
Power Supply Units > HiperPower 625Watt S625 24Pin Active PFC SLi Ready PSU £52.95
Speakers > 2500W PMPO 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers With Subwoofer £19.95
Operating System > MicroSoft Windows 7 Professional – 64Bit, OEM £89.95
Warranty > Bronze Eclipse System Warranty (1Year RTB + Premier30) £4.95
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or down-tooled a bit (but still good)
£ 1005.65 = 1157 Euros
System Configuration
Motherboard > Asrock P55 Extreme LGA1156, cFire,SLI, 7.1Snd, GBLan, ATX £105.75
Processor > Intel i5 750 2.66GHz LGA1156 Processor - Retail £134.90
Memory Slot 1 > 4Gb (2X2Gb) Dual Channel DDR3 1333Mhz Memory £63.75
Memory Slot 2 > 4Gb (2X2Gb) Dual Channel DDR3 1333Mhz Memory £63.75
Graphics Slot > 1024Mb nVidia GeForce GTX 285 PCI-Expres VGA Card £227.00
Hard Drive > 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200rpm S-ATAII 32MB Hard Drive £59.17
Optical Device > NEC AD-5240S-0B 24x+/-DVD-R SATA DL DVD Writer - Black £15.50
Case > Antec Two Hundred Gamers Case, ATX, No PSU £32.25
Power Supply Units > EZCool Tornado 800W ATX, PFC PSU £38.95
Speakers > 2500W PMPO 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers With Subwoofer £19.95
Operating System > MicroSoft Windows 7 Professional – 64Bit, OEM £89.95
Warranty > Bronze Eclipse System Warranty (1Year RTB + Premier30) £4.95
hey guys :)
im looking for a pc which i can use for gaming (:P)
something cheap (in euros if possible)
good gfx card more then 2gb of ram
this is new to me because i dont know much about PCs.
something below 1500euro
all help appreciated
:saba:
Also Don't forget, Saba cannot build this himself, cost will need to include build and install etc.
Some decent prices there tho bert ;)
sababoi99
20-01-2010, 23:34
ohh looks like i need to ask for an increase in the pocket money ;) btw bert i was reading through the stuff and i wont really need speakers, i have a pro gaming headset that i can use on pc/xbox so i can take 19pounds of my expenses :)
ok mate, not much saving though with the speakers
the prices i quoted there are for my local PC supplier, and are for a full custom system rather than just individual parts.
and are for them to build the system for you rather than them just supplying the parts
you should have somewhere similar local
if you did have someone who could help build it, it would be a bit cheaper. but without this you would be stuck.
do you get PC advisor magazine over where you are?? they have a great section of suppliers who might be able to build you a system
sababoi99
23-01-2010, 15:53
ill search around for a place in sligo.. may not find one but its worth a try :)
PC advsior magazines 5 best buys this month, all scoring 148-152 on world-bench 6 ALL from independent suppliers !!!
I have adjusted all the systems so they come without monitor keyboard etc...that you wouldnt need
1 chillblast Fusion condor (http://chillblast.com/product.php?productid=19315&cat=324&page=1) 1 595.36543 Euros.... too expensive for you but check out http://www.chillblast.com/home.php because they do ship internationally but you would have to check the rates
2 Eclipse Titan i795R585 (http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/systemview.aspx?id=107) 1505.36847 Euros, dont know if they ship international
3 CyberPower Infinity i7 Heaven (http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Infinity_i7_Heaven) 1 503.00853 Euros
4 Arbico Elite 9590 HD (http://arbico.co.uk/Arbico-Elite-9590-HD-Multi-Task-PC-Package-p-18424.html) 1573.29 Euros (comes with monitors ect cannot customise)
5 Eclipse Titan Crossfire X58 1 230.5893 Eurosi795R489 (http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/systemview.aspx?id=97)
number 5 here is the best of the bunch in my opinion. it outperforms the others in most thing except pure high def gaming because of only 1 gfx card. if you wanted my opinion i would go for a setup exactly like this, get rid of the RAID bollox (its more trouble than its worth for a novice) and add another GFX card over crossfire (prob 200euroish extra). thenyouve got a very very good system that will eat most others costing twice the price for breakfast
XxXButcher
24-01-2010, 13:00
build it on your own, it's easy :yes1:
sababoi99
25-01-2010, 20:14
hmm if i build on my own can one of you help me over voip or webcam??
woops forgot about this
yes dude i will help you, and by buliding this yourself you stand to make significant savings.
for instance i have just upgraded my PC to a good CPU and motherboard... for £130 all in.......
remember... a lot of the guys here will have hulcking great intel i7's and such BUT for gaming this makes NO diference at all....
gaming does not use hyperthreading or any of the othr related technologies (why dont ask me when every other grphics intensive software does)
what is more important is L2 L3 chache sizes and the actual frequency of the processor.... intel have the lead in this because there chips can be clocked higher.. BUT that means higher clocked RAM (very improtant with intel) AND they have the worse future proof support possible
3 seperate type of socket 775 which is fazing out, 1156 which is the standard but lower end and 1366 which is for the high end
what this acually means is you need to spend a premium on a MOBO and a chip
where-as even though AMD chips are simply not as good at the minute in the real world they cost less AND will do EVERYTHING you need for a fraction of the price... and to top it off AMD socket support is the best AM2/AM2+/AM3 most of the CPU's will drop strasight into any one of the sockets with no problem at all
meaning when it comes to value for money, real world useage and futureproofing AMD is they way to go
but for super high performance you HAVE to have intel
so the simple answer to this is what are you going to use your PC for... gaming itself is not an issue, for example a Phenom II quad WILL be as good as the latest i7 for gaming!!!!
But if you plan to do anything else CPU intesive.... Video editing encoding etc then you will need to have a intel chip
sababoi99
13-02-2010, 18:31
I'm lost :wacko: so intel is what I'm looking for ??
I'm lost :wacko: so intel is what I'm looking for ??
In a word yes. Go for a C2D Dual core but my advice would be to have a Quad core now if budget allows m8 ;)
sababoi99
13-02-2010, 18:38
kk. btw I'm reserching loads of magazines and websites for the best deals/best parts :)
PC format this month did a review of CPU's
and there result was a little interesting
there opinion was that the (nehalem) Core i5 750 quad 2.66Ghz was THE best gaming chip out there!!
and once again this was because for gaming you dont need any of the fancy gubbins like hyperthreading tech....
AND the fact you can pick one up for as little as £150 + it is socket 1156 which means cheaper MOBO
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172755 £150