Timeless Literary Club

[kegNeggs]

:brock3: has anyone else noticed how our communication within this forum has almost been reduced to :offtopic:, :spammer: and overuse of these lovely smileys?:stars:

i do try to get some serious texts in the timeless blog but theres not many actually checkin that ..

[sababoi99]

ive checked the blog a few times and i have to say your first blog was beautiful,i thinks its the one where your writing a book and you look outside and its snowing and then you look at you GF. you a good poet m8 have you heard of seamus heany or W.B yeats?

[sababoi99]

this is the poem

I just feel like talking about the evening that just passed with the coming of the next mornig...
Twas the 29 of October and magical in many many ways..

Never in me life did we have snow so early on in the year but this just tops it all: full blown 5 hours of snowing and, albeit a little one, we do have a blanket of snow now lying over switzerland.
absolutely lovely, i love snow, its nature at its purest and im absolutely mesmerized every year.


another reason to call this night magical is in my arts. as you might know im writing a book at the moment. happens that a very special girl of mine sits across the room, and as i look up from the paper she throws me a little smile...
it was just one of the magical moments when you realize, theres magic in the room. she inspired me to adapt one of the characters in the novel after her plain image, all because of that one magical moment we shared...
it might not be much to you, but stuff like that gives me inspiration. hope. strength.

[f1rest@rter]

ok well then let´s declare this a counterpart to the minor spam thread!
NO SMILIES WELCOME HERE AND ONLY INTELLECTUAL STUFF!

here goes:

What's he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

[APOLLOFRENZY]

Yes I welcome anything clever an stuff and look mam me no laughing!!! rofl but I must check out the blog for myself never really noticed it before

[Aeon135]

Okay great intelectual tread no smilies!!
Does anyone else agree with me that the exploration of space is pointless givin our current technolagy? any that it's only a space race between the usa and china?

[kegNeggs]

well...

there we go again..

remy?
he slowly turned around, remembering a voice he had long thought lost.
is it really you?
how she had changed. and yet the eyes had remained the same, great deep pools of brown, seemingly alive with fire and flames..
how she had changed since that day... the day she said was over...
all of a sudden she embraced him, hugging him tightly, eyes closed...
how actions can say more than a thousand words!
why did you never write to me...?
i did not know you wanted me to...

what was that burning inside his body... a strange tickle, flaring up inside him, a certain warmth...
and an uncertain happiness...
had it affected him, again, after all this time...
he did not know the answer.
he did not want to.
all he wanted was for the warmth to keep burning inside his chest, a happy memory to feed the mood.




Eric Segal once said: True love comes quietly, without banners or flashing lights.If you hear bells, get your ears checked.

was he right?



--

straight out of the timeless blog & my mind...


feel free to leave a comment there, im gettin philosophical once every so often!

[kegNeggs]

lets continue the session of the TLC - timeless literary club with a bit of italian romanticism..

Francesco Maria Piave wrote the Libretto to Giusieppe Verdi's wonderful opera "La Traviata", of which the following excerpt is taken.
For all the ones that are not familiar with the story, wikipedia offers a pretty good summary of the story, right here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_traviata)


Tonight, while listening to the music, the following excerpt struck me like no other before.

GERMONT:
Di Provenza il mar, il suol - chi dal cor ti cancello?
Al natio fulgente sol - qual destino ti furò?
Oh, rammenta pur nel duol - ch'ivi gioia a te brillò;
E che pace colÃ* sol - su te splendere ancor può.
Dio mi guidò!
Ah! il tuo vecchio genitor - tu non sai quanto soffrì
Te lontano, di squallor il suo tetto si coprì
Ma se alfin ti trovo ancor, - se in me speme non fallì,
Se la voce dell'onor - in te appien non ammutì,
Dio m'esaudì!
(abbracciandolo)
Né rispondi d'un padre all'affetto?

Giorgio Germont, Alfredos father talks about the loss of his son and the pain it has caused.. He talks about the good old values that the provence once offered to his son and how they are all gone in vain..
It shows the deep love of a father , coupled with a strong religious bond that I think is almost lost to the modern age..

It is a great achievement in many ways - the poetry by Piave is , as already shown in the first line (which translates roughly as "who erased the memory of the provence's sea and sun out of your mind?" ) superbly well put together - perfect metre and rhyme.
The grand achievement of the composer, Verdi, is that he in fact did find tunes to fit the deeply emotional text basis - and trust me, i have done composing myself, it is not an easy task at all
And of course not least of all the wonderful performance by Renato Bruson plays a great role, too

I can't really put my feelings into words this time, listen to the wonderful aria yourself and be the judge of this grand piece of art.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9mYZXM8FvA&feature=related

[APOLLOFRENZY]

checked on yopur blog nice pic I see now why your posting from a phone lol! your bill must be sky high

[Aeon135]

something intellectual..hmmm
anyone else notice how people beleive that eve (from the bible) at an apple? iv looked it up and theres no mention of an apple tree, just a fruit tree...

[kegNeggs]

im surprised that aeon would care about such petty details, considering that he himself stated to be an atheist - but he's right!
i have just checked Genesis and indeed, there is no reference to apples - it merely sais fruit.
nicely spotted m8!

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As you sit in your quiet home, surrounded by peace, comfort and civilization...
do you, listener, remember those memories... grand and tearful, which still, after hundreds of years, remain, now radiant with the brightness of sunlight, and now darkening, like indelible bloodstains... the variegated pages of history.
Can your thoughts, torpid with repose, transport themselves back to the horrors and joys of the past... not straying indifferently from one thing to another which excites your curiosity, but taking a warm and vital interest, as if you yourself stood in the midst of those struggles, now long since fought out... bled in them, conquered or fell in them, and felt your heart beat with hope or apprehension according as fortune smiled or betrayed...
Standing on the heights of history, looking far around the wild arena of human destiny, can you transfer yourself into the well of the past? A life physically buried and decayed, but spiritually inmost, which constitutes the essence and substance of history... Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
Therefore, if you have the capacity to suffer or rejoice with the generation that had been... to hate with them... to love with them... to be transported to admire, to despise, to curse as they have done - in a word: to live among them with your whole heart and not alone with your cold, reflecting judgement...
... then follow me. I will lead you down into the well. My hand is weak and my sketch humble, but your heart will guide you better than I.
Upon that I rely... and begin

Excerpt from "The Surgeon's Stories - In Times of Gustaf Adolf" by Zacharias Topelius. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacharias_Topelius)

quite evocative isnt it?, if you ever gonna read my work which is still in work, i hope to achieve a similar effect..

i would like to go into details about the power of language, but I'm afraid not many here are really interested

[Aeon135]

im surprised that aeon would care about such petty details, considering that he himself stated to be an atheist - but he's right!
i have just checked Genesis and indeed, there is no reference to apples - it merely sais fruit.
nicely spotted m8!



visa versa in my opinion being an atheist i take care to spot things like that, plus i jus thought it was mildy interesting, despite my beliefs im very interested in religions

"We don't need government
We need utilities.

Air, water, energy
Travel and communication means
Food and shelter.

We have no need for imaginary mountain ranges
Between separate nations.

We can make tunnels through the real ones.

Nor do we have any need for the continuing division of people
Into those who have what they need
And those who don't.

Both Fuller and Marshal McLuhan
Knew, furthermore
That work is now obsolete.
We have invented machines to do it for us.

Now that we have no need to do anything
What shall we do?

Looking at Fuller's geodesic world map
We see that the Earth is a single island, Oahu.
We must give all the people all they need to live
In any way they wish.

Our present laws protect the rich from the poor.

If there are to be laws, we need ones that
Begin with the acceptance of poverty as a way of life.

We must make the world safe for poverty Without dependence on government."

[Dax]

i feel the same as aeon, knowing the religion helps me more to realize why i'm not part of it, like the whole jesus being born at christmas thing, its balls, everything in the bible points to summer birth, so why not celebrate it at summer solstice, it'll make the pagans just as happy as having it at winter solstice

[Aeon135]

i feel the same as aeon, knowing the religion helps me more to realize why i'm not part of it, like the whole jesus being born at christmas thing, its balls, everything in the bible points to summer birth, so why not celebrate it at summer solstice, it'll make the pagans just as happy as having it at winter solstice

yup
what are you then?

[Dax]

yup
what are you then?

atheist, i thought i made that clear several times, sorry :)

[Kharak]

something intellectual..hmmm
anyone else notice how people beleive that eve (from the bible) at an apple? iv looked it up and theres no mention of an apple tree, just a fruit tree...

If you read in Genesis 2:9 "And out of the ground made the LORD God grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil". you will see, that Eve was tempted by the serpent.. Genesis 3:4-6 "And the serpent said unto the woman. Ye shall not surely die" V:5 " for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil". V:6 "And when the woman saw that the tree [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat".

Yes you are correct! There is never mentioned anything about apples. And they did get the knowledge of good and evil, they were perfect before. They were given knowledge of Good and Evil, they did not know of evil, only God knew what evil was. When they tasted evil, the Sin entered their flesh and this world was cursed by it. Amen

I´m writing from King James Version of the Bible, so it´s very old English.

[kegNeggs]

Thanks for the excerpt kharak, i was too busy to type it myself!
By the way, the king james bible is a glorious piece of work, never too old if its art!

[Aeon135]

atheist, i thought i made that clear several times, sorry :)

yup think you did but as i said earlier, my memory is absolutly awful, im suprised i remember telling you

well if this is the intellectual tread then maybe something to debate
what does everyone think of US (among othere countries) involvement in iraqistan? sry.i mean Afganaq..err, Iraq

[Aeon135]

hmm no politics here so, but heres an absolutly beautiful poem



If I knew



(11 September)



If I knew it would be the last time
that I'd see you fall asleep
I would tuck you in more tightly
and pray the Lord, your soul to keep.

If I knew it would be the last time
that I see you walk out the door,
I would give you a hug and a kiss
and call you back for one more..

If I knew it would be the last time
I'd hear your voice lifted up in praise,
I would video tape each action and word
so I could play them back day after day..

if I knew it would be the last time
I'd could spare any extra minute,
to stop and say" I love you"
instead of assuming you would know I do..

If I knew it would be the last time
I would be there to share your day
well I'm sure you'll have so many more,
so I can let just this one slip away..

For surely there's always tomorrow,
to make up for an oversight,
and we always get a second chance
to make everything just right..

There will always be another day to say
"I love you", and certainly there's another chance
to say our "anything I can do"?

But just in case I might be wrong
and today is all I get
I'd like to say how much I love you
and I hope we never forget..

Tomorrow is not promised to anyone
young or old a like
and today may be the last chance
you get to hold your loved one tight..

so. if you're waiting for tomorrow,
why not do it today?
for if tomorrow never comes,
you'll surely regret the day

so. hold your loved ones close today
and whisper in their ear,
tell them how much you loved them
and that you'll always hold them dear..

Take time to say" I'm sorry",
"please forgive me", "thank you", or "it's ok"
and if tomorrow never comes,
you'll have no regrets about today!

[APOLLOFRENZY]

something intellectual..hmmm
anyone else notice how people beleive that eve (from the bible) at an apple? iv looked it up and theres no mention of an apple tree, just a fruit tree...

Yes thats right and Adam was made from spare ribs lol! :frank:

[Aeon135]

Yes thats right and Adam was made from spare ribs lol! :frank:

other way around women were made from adams rib..somehow..

now heres something from my own version of the bible

''In the beginning, the data was a formless void, and the spirit of Al Gore floated above it. He said, "Let there be images!". He saw the Porn and that it was bad, and separated it from the Safe For Work. He separated the tubes from the YouTube and the Froogle from the Google. Gore then reached into the dirt and made new life: The Admin. He took an HTML Tag from the Admin and made the User. He placed them in the Garden of Uncyclopedia, and set an FBI agent to watch over it. He filled the Garden with many different creatures: javas, jpegs, pngs, shtmls, phps, gifs, bmps and bumps. He looked at His creation, and saw that it was good.

In the centre, he placed the Tree of 4chan. He told the Admin and the User not to click on the links in the fruit from the Tree of 4chan, or face banishment from the Garden of Uncyclopedia. However, the evil pwn was subtle. He tricked the User into following the link, goatse, which she showed to the Admin. The Vice President appeared and spoke thusly to them: "Admin, for your sin, you will spend your days compiling programs and installing software, but no matter how hard you work, bugs will still sin, you will have intense frustration while doing trivial dick. And though your desire will be for the same access rights as the Admin, he shall rule over your data."

As a final punishment, Gore banished the Admin and the User into the unforgiving wasteland of Wikipedia, and set a flaming firewall to guard the garden. From there, the rest of the internet was poop.

"Thusly Al Gore went off into the sun screaming "Xclibur!!!''

-the book of DARPA 13:37

[sexytime-24-7]

i somehow knew you were going to mention 4chan aka \b\ aka the asshole of the internet as the evil part.

[APOLLOFRENZY]

Alas man has got to know his limitations
"Clint Eastwood in a fist full of dollars"

[kegNeggs]

The Lord's Prayer in Old English
Matthew 6:9-13.
________________________________________
Fæder ure þu þe eart on heofonum;
Father our thou that art in heavens

Si þin nama gehalgod
be thy name hallowed

to becume þin rice
come thy kingdom

gewurþe ðin willa
be-done thy will

on eorðan swa swa on heofonum.
on earth as in heavens

urne gedæghwamlican hlaf syle us todæg
our daily bread give us today

and forgyf us ure gyltas
and forgive us our sins

swa swa we forgyfað urum gyltendum
as we forgive those-who-have-sinned-against-us

and ne gelæd þu us on costnunge
and not lead thou us into temptation

ac alys us of yfele soþlice
but deliver us from evil. truly



wonderful language, old english.

give it a read its quite evoking...

[Aeon135]

The Lord's Prayer in Old English
Matthew 6:9-13.
________________________________________
Fæder ure þu þe eart on heofonum;
Father our thou that art in heavens

Si þin nama gehalgod
be thy name hallowed

to becume þin rice
come thy kingdom

gewurþe ðin willa
be-done thy will

on eorðan swa swa on heofonum.
on earth as in heavens

urne gedæghwamlican hlaf syle us todæg
our daily bread give us today

and forgyf us ure gyltas
and forgive us our sins

swa swa we forgyfað urum gyltendum
as we forgive those-who-have-sinned-against-us

and ne gelæd þu us on costnunge
and not lead thou us into temptation

ac alys us of yfele soþlice
but deliver us from evil. truly



wonderful language, old english.

give it a read its quite evoking...


testicles specticles wallet and watch in other words

fundamentalists say the darndest things

'' In the beginning was the Word. ''
did you know universe means ''one verse'' as in one spoken phrase? this is how hindus and christians believe we came about along with alot of other religions, that hindu meditation sound ''Aum'' is the phrase they believe was spoken in the beginning

[kegNeggs]

hmm just came aross some old school stuff here

Battle of Maldon (?AD 1000)

[...]

The wolves of war advanced, the viking troop,
Unmoved by water, westward over Pante,
Over the gleaming water bore their shields.
The seamen brought their linden-shields to land.
There Byrhtnoth and his warriors stood ready
To meet their enemies. He told his troops
To make a shield-wall and to hold it fast
Against their foes. So battle with its glory
Drew near. The time had come for fated men
To perish in that place. A cry went up.
The ravens wheeled above, the fateful eagle
Keen for his carrion. On earth was uproar.
They let the file-hard spears fly from their fists,
Grimly-ground darts; and bows were busy too.
Shield recieved spear-point; savage was the onslaught.
Fighters fell dead, young men on either side.
Wulfmar was wounded. Byrhtnoth's sister's son
Chose death in battle, he was utterly
Cut down by swords. But there at once was vengeance
Paid to the vikings, for I heard that Edward
Struck one of them so fiercely with his sword,
Restraining not the stroke, that at his feet
The fated warrior fell to the earth.
For this his prince, as soon as he had time,
Gave grateful thanks to his bold chamberlain.
So the stout-hearted warriors stood firm
In battle, and the young men eagerly
Competed who might first with point of spear
Deprive a fated soldier of his life;
And all around the slaughtered fell to earth.
Steadfast they stood, as Byrhtnoth stirred them on
Bade every soldier concentrate on war
Who wished to win renown against the Danes.
A warlike viking soldier then advanced,
His weapon raised, his shield up in defence,
And strode towards the earl, who in return
Marched resolutely forth to meet the churl.
They each inteded evil to the other.
The seaman hurled a Frankish javelin
So that the leader of the troops was wounded.
He thrust out with his shield so that the shaft
Was shattered and the spear sprang back again.
Enraged, the hero seized his spear and stabbed
The proud, rash viking who had wounded him.
No novice was the earl, he made his spear
Pass through the young man's neck, guided his hand
So that he pierced the pirate fatally.

[...]

(from Battle of Maldon, translation)

this is the original found here (http://www8.georgetown.edu/departments/medieval/labyrinth/library/oe/texts/a9.html).

[...]

Wodon þa wælwulfas (for wætere ne murnon),
wicinga werod, west ofer Pantan,
ofer scir wæter scyldas wegon,
lidmen to lande linde bæron.
100
þær ongean gramum gearowe stodon
Byrhtnoð mid beornum; he mid bordum het
wyrcan þone wihagan, and þæt werod healdan
fæste wið feondum. þa wæs feohte neh,
tir æt getohte. Wæs seo tid cumen
105
þæt þær fæge men feallan sceoldon.
þær wearð hream ahafen, hremmas wundon,
earn æses georn; wæs on eorþan cyrm.
Hi leton þa of folman feolhearde speru,
gegrundene garas fleogan;

[...]

i damned love this tale, its very very awesome

[fulmar]

Ezekiel 25:17


The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness.
For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

[kegNeggs]

Ezekiel 25:17


The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness.
For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.


you do know this is not the real thing, dont you ;)

this version used in pulp fiction is not from the bible.
it is a mixture of several passages from the bible, yet Ezekiel 25:17 does not exist in this form, except in this movie

that said, its a damned good scene, love it, thx for posting :)

[Kharak]

Just found this poem or whatever you would call it that I wrote about a year ago.

I wrote this one sunday morning, I woke up drunk and high.

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Total domination is not for me

For it is not for me.

Because my idiocracy is great

For I am great.

I am the best.

The smartest of all class.

I never loose.

All fights I have joined, I have won.

All woman I have set my eyes on, I have conquered.

All obstacles overcome.

All rivals destroyed.

What more is there to life…

But one..

The greatest of all great of me.

The best of all best in me.

The strongest of the strongest in me.

The source to my power.

He the greatest One.

The greatest of all.

Lord of lords.

I fear him the most.

I will never overcome him.

My greatest wish of him.

Is that I may only be at peace with him. Amen!


Hallur.-
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Why I wrote it that faithful morning... I do not know.

[kurk_will_mutiny]

acid come down?

[XxXButcher]

gaaaaaaaaaaawd what strange people in here :wacko:

[Dax]

gaaaaaaaaaaawd what strange people in here :wacko:

its not a requirement, but by god it helps!

[XxXButcher]

O.k. lemme join :gamer1:

And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:51+52

:zombie:

[gunfood]

'The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides with the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness,
for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know that my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.'

Ezekiel 25:17

[Dax]

'The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides with the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness,
for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know that my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.'

Ezekiel 25:17

that isnt 25:17 ;)

[XxXButcher]

Buy one get one for free!

from Mc Donald's 23:12