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riptearmaim
27-10-2008, 13:47
Hey there,

First off let me compliment you on your site here. This is very advanced. Much more advanced in features then my clans site. Not sure what website maker or service they use. Not sure how all that works, but am really impressed with the site builder that you have here. What a simply little thing the thanks button accomplishes at the bottom of the post. Demonstrating who is taking the time to actually read this stuff. efficent, cool. COuld you tell me what site builder app. u use here? Hope I'm asking it in the right way.

Anyway, real quick I was hoping to get a banned lifted that i was just served a couple days ago. I just read your posts about the no kill zones on gibraltor here in the forum and what is consider illegal play for your site. I didn't realize I was breaking a rule. Really.

SOLDIER DATA

Soldier name: riptearmaim.
clan: =SOC=
Map: Camp G.
Day: oct.25 (saturday)
Time: around 11pm I believe give or take.

Action: I was at harbor down by far west rock outcropping, killed a player that was lying prone, outside of the spawn area though. I thought that was acceptable as long as you didn't actually go inside the center area. I wasn't warned at all either, banned instantly. Arn't U usually warned first, I thought I read that in your server rules, but just to clairify.

Please can I be unbanned and will try my best to always follow your server rules now that I've actually taken the time to read them.

If I may explain further and in more depth what my I was doing at the time, I was on the far west side of the "G" map at harbor, jumped off the wall and ran down the beach to head towards the barge up where that little corridor is between the barge and the actual pavement. Well as i ran down through the sand, I saw a tango up that way which forced me to turn down by the rocks west of the barge. As I ran towards the rocks there was 3 tango's there. One behinf the cropping coming out the back side on the barge side, one coming out the front side of the cropping towards me and one outside the cropping laying prone on the far west side of the spawn rocks. I know there is no base rape, and I follow the rules. I never go inside the rock area where they actual spawn. I was under the impresion though that once they leave the center of the rocks then there considered killible. So I ran down by the prone tango far west outside the cropping and shot him dead. Then ofcourse I was slaughtered by the 2 left and respawned and a minute latter I was kicked off the server for excessive team killing and tried to rejoin and it said i was banned. Whew, I hope you can make sense of all that, it is a long winded description there, sorry.

Anyhow, I always do try to respect your no attack the uncaps rules, and always refrain from killing at the spawn points where the soldiers actually come in, I wasn't aware that the rule is far more encompassing then that. I have read your rule post and see you would consider what I did a rape action as well. Any killing on the beach it seams is considered off limits. Am I reading that right.

So if your EU, u have to wait till Pac reaches the pavement of harbor before you can kill them. Are grenades thrown from the pavement into the sandy area raping? Are there any parts of the sandy area where you can kil pac and not be breaking your server rules. For example: that small area between the west barge and the pavement. Where the high crane is at. Is it alright to put APM's in the area or RDX? Can you snipe into the sand as long as your not actually taking down tango's as they spawn in, I mean they move away from the rock croppings where they spwaned but are still down on the sand? Well I could think of more situation that I would want to have clairified, but my hands are tired, hehe, and your eyes are I bet tired of reading this slop, haha. I imagine your brain is a little on the taxxed side to for reading all this nonsensibal meanderings to...lol.

Last, I hope you can see, I really was trying to abide by your rules, thought what I did was in limits because he was away from the actual point of spawn entry between the rocks. Once they leave the kill free zone of the center area and are outside the rocks I thought they were in bounds then.

Not that my opinion matters ofcourse, and I'm very grateful for being allowed to even play here at your server, but have U ever considered relaxing your no sand kill rule to the point where as long as spawning soldiers arnt killed in the actual croppings themselves, like on that far west rock cropping once they move out of the center area they are in the hot zone and are legal kills. Seems that would be more playible, hard to just wait up there on the pavement till pac reaches it, one I think everone is impulsive and impaient an just wants to start playing and it kinda takes you out of your game a little, slows your reaction time cause you wait and wait then all of a sudden they show up on the pavement and because they were in the process of moving they are sharper and quicker in their actions and EU might be slower in the reaction because your just waiting and waiting for them. Does that make sense what I mean, hopefully.

Can I ask also, don't think it's fair for a pac soldier to be laying down by the rocks an sniping up to eu's harbor but if EU kills him down there, they would be breaking the rules. Not sure I am stating this clearly enough , hope so. Another area where it seems maybe unfair would be if your pac and you reach harbor and enter into the east and west building where EU spawns and just blow them up or shoot them down as they spawn in, isn't that base raping to. Reason why I ask is it happens every game I play at your server. especially in the east building. I get shot or blown to bits by pac sitting there behind the spawn point on top of that trailer inside the building for sometimes 3-4 deaths in a row a game. Now is that considered an outlawed action? If not, why not. curious thats all. I do it to, so I would like to know. if I'm breaking the rules.


Well, I hope you received in the respectful light it was written from. Thanks again for a great server, your one of the last 64man camp g's that seems to be running on a regular basis. Our game is starting to wan I'm afraid, all the other games seems like it is drawing all the players away, :-( Damn, this is my all-time favorite game to, been that way for last year in and half.

RTM

GUNter
27-10-2008, 15:43
Hello riptearmaim

it was me who banned u, u was coming down on Sand and stand only 1 or 2 Meters away from Spawnpoint between the Rocks ( the Rocks left side from EU View and right side from PAC View ). I spawned there and u killed a PAC in front of me, if u would had killed the 2nd one then i would be the next. Its defenitly Baseraping in our Rules.

Nice that u come here to read the Rules and ask for unban, all ur other Clanmembers did not. I banned =SOC= blade1114 and 2 other of ur Clan a Month ago, before i banned blade i kicked him like 50 Times a Week. I wrote thousands of Messages to him, even whispered hundreds of Times, but he never responded to me. On one Day ( i kicked him 5 Times that Day ) he came down on Sand and blowed me up with RDX, after i spawned again a 2nd =SOC= Member knifed me 2 seconds after i spawned on the Rocks. I had enough then and banned him and the 2 others who were all raping on the Beach. Generaly I have nothing against him or ur Clan except ur often tending Beachkilling, but i was sad about no Responding to my Messages from =SOC=:(.

Normaly everyone get a second Chance after first Ban for Baserape, blades Fault was that he not came here to read the Rules and appeal for unban and give an Excuse, instaed he used a CD-Key-Changer to get back on our Server. Before we ever will let him play again on our Server again he has to come here for an Excuse and to read the Rules. In ur Case i think u read our Rules now and we can give u a 2nd Chance m8, but please stay away from Sand.

Sniping into the Beach as EU is also forbidden, i dont ban for that i only kick in such Case ( most Players learn from that ), but we have also an Admin here whos banning for such Thing immediatly. I know what u mean with the Reaction Thingi in defend and Attack between EU and PAC, u can kill near the Crane thats no Problem but dont go or kill in the red Zones on Sand while u doing.

AND PLS TELL blade1114 THAT HE MUST COME HERE TO EXCUSE AND ASK FOR UNBAN, MAYBE THEN THERE IS A MINIMUM CHANCE FOR HIM TO PLAY AGAIN ON OUR SERVER. Would be nice, if u could do this. Pls tell all Players from ur Clan who play often on Timeless the Rules, so maybe we can prevent before next Bans:rtfm:.

Ok, Yellow Admins pls unban riptearmaim, he get a 2nd Chance. Have fun rip, but pls respect the Rules then there is no Problem. C u on BF m8 :)






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InvaderTX
27-10-2008, 16:08
That Titangunther said is true. I have also seen-kick-ban many members of your clan who always baseraping

Ban is lifted
Have Fun - Play Fair

f1rest@rter
27-10-2008, 17:42
now that´s the way to get rid of a ban. :good1:
blade on the other side is banned and will be banned on sight for multiple baserape and not following the rules although an admin has told him ingame.

EDIT: and of course for cd key gen. thx keggs.

kegNeggs
27-10-2008, 17:52
yeap perfect example

and ehm titangunther, he used a cd key generator to get back on?
i dont think he should be allowed back, moreso banned on sight for cheating?

Privateschenk
27-10-2008, 19:26
Yeah =SOC= server rules aint the same as timeless, no rdx baserpaing here :good1:

Bert
28-10-2008, 11:11
Hi riptearmaim, welcome to timeless btw :)

Titangunther has answered about your ban (seem fair your unbanned to me as it was a minor baseraping violation) you took the time and effort to ask nicely and in detail about your unban so I will answer your questions. :)


Any killing on the beach it seams is considered off limits. Am I reading that right. Yes this is right, the vast majority of the sand is off limits and is concidered part of the uncap-spawnarea


So if your EU, u have to wait till Pac reaches the pavement of harbor before you can kill them again yes

Are grenades thrown from the pavement into the sandy area raping? very much so, one of my major hates this, particulalry to the rocks to the west of the beach where if you spwan 50% of the time you die instantly on some servers.

Are there any parts of the sandy area where you can kil pac and not be breaking your server rules. For example: that small area between the west barge and the pavement the west part, up to the pavment and ladder is off limits and counted as the uncap. see the Map here for the red no kill zone >> CLICK (http://www.timelessgaming.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1817&d=1211102053) as you can see the area to the east is ok.

Where the high crane is at. Is it alright to put APM's in the area or RDX? yep its on the pavment, go get em!

Can you snipe into the sand as long as your not actually taking down tango's as they spawn i No no killing in the red zone

but have U ever considered relaxing your no sand kill rule to the point where as long as spawning soldiers arnt killed in the actual croppings themselves My own opinion here (but im sure it tallies with the admins) is that this has to be strict, not because of guys like yourselfs who would ligitimtly wait but and relaxing of this rule would lead to the real cheats having a argument for having their bans lifted. at the end of the day on Gib the game is very very rarely won at Harbour. its how fast pac can sneak through too other flags or won at the choke points between harbour and toll station or central camp and ruins. the battle over harbour needs to be played as a holding action by EU.

Another area where it seems maybe unfair would be if your pac and you reach harbor and enter into the east and west building where EU spawns and just blow them up or shoot them down as they spawn in, isn't that base raping to. Reason why I ask is it happens every game I play at your server. especially in the east building I understand what you mean BUT at this point in the game EU has 5 seperate spawn points to choose from (as well as squad beacons) its frustrating to spawn here the get blow instantly away, but so what? spawn elsewhere and get the gits tags (or rdx them) lol huntings always fun :)

anyway thanks for your post
remember that timeless has many great servers to play on
please tell your clanmates so they dont have your misfortune
and
play hard, play fair and have fun
cu on the bf

CaptPlissken
28-10-2008, 15:32
Lucky it wasnt me! haha, I saw you on the beach and was just entering your name when you had already been banned.

ChaoZ[IRE]
28-10-2008, 16:41
i went thru a case of beer reading all this

Bert
28-10-2008, 20:39
lol

sababoi99
28-10-2008, 22:15
lol berts post was lonnnnnnnnng

f1rest@rter
31-10-2008, 09:30
not so good 4 the soc´s......

http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-d0010aa0-vb96603.html

riptearmaim
22-11-2008, 16:13
and thanking you guys for unbanning me. Praise you all for being so understanding and tolerant. Yes, I do understand your policy now in regards to what is legal and not at your Camp G server. Sorry for causing all the trouble I did. That map really says it all pretty much....lol. :good1:

Now did you want me to say something to blade1114 about coming here to apologize or is he banned for good cause he used that cheat. :tomato:Let me know and I will say something to him OK.

Yes your rules are very different then SOC servers. They allow it all there. We like to refer to it's just like the old wild west.....hehe..... anything goes, and I do mean anything.... rdx hoping, base raping, high roof walking, outside the wall sneak attacks, and I guess if pod surfing was still in effect it would be to. The only thing they disallow is fighting commanders. :rdxparty: :leftstupid:

Sometimes in my battle lust I get caught up and forget that I'm not playing at SOC.... WON'T happen anymore, promise. :-)

Oh, do you know what web page making software and or provider you use at timeless. Love all the features your site has, =SOC= has a very simplistic site.

Be good.....

:RTM

Aeon135
22-11-2008, 20:25
ok stupid question can u kill pac that is in the red, but is sniping? cause if its against the rules to kill him, but he can kill u, then isnt he sorta imvincible?

are u high ranking in SOC btw?

kegNeggs
23-11-2008, 12:42
a just question m8 and one im afraid i dont have a good answer for
i talked with horn3t about this a time ago before i was admin and his reply was short and tuff dont shoot there, dont go there even if shot at.

For me personally i think its in a gray zone, i wouldnt kick someone sniping me back when i snipe him from say beach?

what do the others think on that

JDREADD
23-11-2008, 17:22
i personally think that as long as u do not enter the red bit ? lol and as long as u dont sit killing them all its fine 1 kill is legal but if ur sat waiting for spawners then u get raped kicked and banned . for instance suez ? if some one comes to destroy ur assets and u die as he blows them hes not spawn camping even if he defends him self its not camping .

camping ? spawn killing is when u sit and wait for spawners to kill them ? thats the way i see it and treat it lol