View Full Version : TheOne187 cheater
fantastico14
08-01-2008, 18:31
best video ever watch this and please make lifetime bann.
battlerecorder date 8.1.2008
time 03.10.28
server timeless suez
oh.. btw watch video 2 times you will see this BFD glitcher also again lifetime ban please.
catziggy
08-01-2008, 19:22
I beleive this is the battlerecording in question
http://www.rackage.com/downloads/servers/193.93.46.78/16567/auto_2008_01_08_02_11_10.bf2142demo
having said that after watching it twice I cannot see what he was meant to be doing illegally.
He seems to be a very good player and obviously knows how to get the best from the game and things like its weapons.
I need more proof or a specific thing to pinpoint any cheating. So for now I am sorry I cannot accept the recording as evidence of blatant cheating.
fantastico14
08-01-2008, 19:26
????
mayby you have not seen the file i mean.mayby i must cope the file i have.
but he watch true the titan deck too see 2 people on the ground then he blow them away (this is perfect too see)then he watch true walls too see poeple outside (you can see that also great),then at the end bevor he get kicked he heal himself and watch true the top over corridor 1(also very good too see),then you see him in corridor 3 he watch true walls come out and shoot with rockets too the window over terminal 2.
he can´t know somebody was in there because he see it not like in battlerecorder.
i know those cheating wallhacks from my time when i play cod uo for it is perfect too see.
but ok...
but i understand when you see it life in a game then you will understand.
darix.zen,damon,jens1979 we was in the game and we saw it life.
Healing himself is not a crime =)
But theres a bug sometimes when you die you can look through walls and perhaps he got revived after he saw the enemies through the walls
Lol you say my english suck XD look every second word of yours is wrong =) I still can read that but just lol
I know you dont need the right spelling or right grammatical terms for anything BECAUSE everyone will still understand you and school just wants you to be perfect =)
catziggy
08-01-2008, 19:29
Yes but there are things that can explain him looking at the ceiling like someone else having spotted an enemy and it will show up as a red triangle above him etc
The times he was looking at th ceiling etc are minimal he spent a lot of time standing near the console just staring down the corridor... not looking about at all.
Theres nothing I can do. If I sent this video into Pbbans they cretainly would not accept it. Sorry.
fantastico14
08-01-2008, 19:40
@oppo
nah he was not dead he was also not in a squad you see him looking true the titan deck on the ground he turn his head around then pick rdx run too pod and fly under his own titan and blow 2 people away.
the battlerecorder from cod uo was much better then this one..
that is the problem with wallhacks cat you can never say he do or he don´t.
oh my mistake i put 2 files together you see him jumping down on the time 22.00-0.00 but who cares i wait if he comeback on suez and then i save the files and watch them.
I've thought the same myself at times Fantastico, he does some really dodge stuff.. and hes extremely fishy.
It don't help the fact that he has a cheat website in his name, maybe just a quincadence.
Btw: there is no demo for the time you said, think it's been overwritten.
Can someone look into the logs from yesterday? I can´t definitly remember which admin kicked this guy.
But I saw a short message ingame "...TheOne187 kicked for cheating..." and the player was Black_Death....!!
Someone told me months ago that he is an admin of evenbalance. If this is correct, than there won´t be any problems in the future with this player!
catziggy
09-01-2008, 09:12
Firstly no one kicked the player in the battlerecorder. He disconnected. I already checked the log. Secondly Only Timeless admins can kick or ban on our servers. You won't see anyone elses name but ours.
Finally TheOne appears in no public ban list on Pbbans or Punksbusted.
autodork
09-01-2008, 11:25
I just thought this player was really good, he usually goes out in the gunship and gets loads of kills before the shields go down, then uses every trick in the book to continue getting the kills when the shileds are down.....I've killed him loads of times and he's killed me loads of times - I never really been suspicious.....I'll look more closely next time I play and hes there, but sometimes we just have to resign ourselves to the fact that maybe there are other players who are better than us :)
epox always had a knack of gettin 200 + points a lot on suez back in the day.
Just about keepin the points flowing by constantly doing the right thing at the right time.
Before shields are down - fix guns, sit in guns / take silos, get kills
After shields are down - Rdx like a nutter
I just thought this player was really good, he usually goes out in the gunship and gets loads of kills before the shields go down, then uses every trick in the book to continue getting the kills when the shileds are down.....I've killed him loads of times and he's killed me loads of times - I never really been suspicious.....I'll look more closely next time I play and hes there, but sometimes we just have to resign ourselves to the fact that maybe there are other players who are better than us :)
Yes, this guy is good with RDX and same here i have been killed by him
and gave him my fair share. As this guy is passing PB, it does look like
he is a legit player, which is the side i swing to with this chappy.
If peeps think he's cheating in some way then get some proof somehow
if ya can keep up with him with ya camcorder looolz.
Sometimes when someone is exceptionally good at a particular thing
then it would be easy to accuse. ;)
All i can say is check him out and get some evidence if you think he's
up to no good.
splasher2
09-01-2008, 14:05
I'm not to wise with all things titan because i never play on it, but a simlar problem i had last year with a player on NS server.
I wasn't a admin then, and the player(i can't remember name now), had just 6 deaths 3 rounds and gold in two of the rounds.
I guess he was a aimbot-er or something along thoughs lines.
Ask ziggy to find the guy, he did, and it turns out the guy was awesome in a walker.
He'll kill 10 or so ppl, never let himself get in trouble when in one, if he did, he'd get out well before it blew up and i'd go get in another one or wait for it to respawn and then kill another 10-15 ppl and so on..
I don't know the ins and out of titan maps and what u can and can't do on them.
But maybe this guy is that good?
catziggy
09-01-2008, 14:36
If we banned people for being awesome where would MuppetHunter be now?
I'm not to wise with all things titan because i never play on it, but a simlar problem i had last year with a player on NS server.
I wasn't a admin then, and the player(i can't remember name now), had just 6 deaths 3 rounds and gold in two of the rounds.
I guess he was a aimbot-er or something along thoughs lines.
Ask ziggy to find the guy, he did, and it turns out the guy was awesome in a walker.
He'll kill 10 or so ppl, never let himself get in trouble when in one, if he did, he'd get out well before it blew up and i'd go get in another one or wait for it to respawn and then kill another 10-15 ppl and so on..
I don't know the ins and out of titan maps and what u can and can't do on them.
But maybe this guy is that good?
I know who you mean =) He always plays on Timeless NS and especially on Port Bavaria, getting a walker and pwning everyone who gets out of those docks =P Really good and I even saw your thread where you were complaining and calling him a cheater lol =)
Yes, this guy is good with RDX and same here i have been killed by him
and gave him my fair share. As this guy is passing PB, it does look like
he is a legit player, which is the side i swing to with this chappy.
If peeps think he's cheating in some way then get some proof somehow
if ya can keep up with him with ya camcorder looolz.
Sometimes when someone is exceptionally good at a particular thing
then it would be easy to accuse. ;)
All i can say is check him out and get some evidence if you think he's
up to no good.
If PB will let him pass this does not mean he does not cheat, does it? (many does) It could be he has an undetectable Hack to do that and ... when I cheated I didnt always kill guys through walls or something like that I just watched... saw them, then I played like a noob and sometimes I knew where the enemies are... lol
Not every cheater is catchable !
Like i say.. it does look like he's a legit player... prove he is not..
To me, he 'feels' like he's getting some kind of help but on the other hand
IF someone is an exceptional player then he would feel like he was cheating
or being aided somehow. So is he a good player or is he cheating ?
Like catz said... he's not gonna be banned unless its proven he's cheating
and i quite agree. Bear in mind, i do actually agree with you guys that this
guy may be cheating and i've felt this for close to a month now. Lets see
some vidz, get your fraps etc goin. ;)
the point with theone187 is that he does headshots all the time. he ran into a corridor where we just killed the console and killed 3 of us in a row and all only got 1-2 hits. especially when he just came around the corner.
that makes it feel a bit suspicious.
There's a lot of regulars on his case, you're all experienced players too.
We need some proof guys. ;)
I was in when he was doing this getting darix.zens tags on video and i can promise you "he knew you were coming" he could seen where ever you were. unless hes had previous accounts or something, sorry to say but if i see him online in timeless im avoiding him, i hate cheats
autodork
10-01-2008, 10:38
There is that hack made by some company (can't remember their name, MSI or something) where you can see *everyone* on the battlefield and you can see all the enemy as 'pink' (i.e. without the normal textures wrapped round them) - through any objects - through walls, whatever....maybe he's using that?
Out of interest - catziggy: how are aimbots detected and bans enforced by pbbans?
catziggy
10-01-2008, 11:01
CVAR checks offer the ability to scan players game directories for known cheat CVARs both active and inactive. MD5Tool checks offer the ability to scan players game directories for known cheat files or modified game files. PBBans provides the MCI (http://www.pbbans.com/mci.php) to SGAs for their optional use. If the SGA uses the data from the MCI on their servers, players joining the server with known cheat CVARs, cheat files, or modified game files will be kicked from the server and the violation streamed to PBBans and added to the MBI (http://www.pbbans.com/mbi.php).
I was in when he was doing this getting darix.zens tags on video and i can promise you "he knew you were coming" he could seen where ever you were. unless hes had previous accounts or something, sorry to say but if i see him online in timeless im avoiding him, i hate cheats
But you can see enemy coming via the mini map along with scanners, UAV's
and other players and commanders spotting, i use the mini map a great deal
of the time and more so while in the titan.
Arctic_Wolf
10-01-2008, 11:25
Hey guys,
Catziggy or any other Admin!
Whilst on the subject of this player...
I think it was "Timeless servers" (I'm recalling this from memory from well over a year ago, when you just had the one Titan server lol). Didn't you used to have a "Scrolling rule" in game, that stated any player using RDX to blast themselves up from level to level within the Titan would be kicked or banned for it?
This all too easy exploit with the "Soldier Splash FF" being set to Off, he is certainly misbehaving with using RDX explosives to his maximum advantage. This AM (can't remember exact timings, it was a few hours ago now). Whilst using this method to get from"Corridor level" up on to the "balconies" at Vent level on the Titans, he was killing players as he blasted himself up to them, landing literally on top of them and knifing them without them ever knowing where he had come from or what the explosion was!
[SE] servers have "Soldier Spash FF Off" also like Timeless, (we don't have FF off for the other alternatives however), if we witness players exploiting RDX in that manner, we do remove them for that admittedly! I thought you did also?
Granted, he is a very good player, there is no doubting that, but he is certainly exploiting the Splash FF off conditions 99% more than any other player lol.
Just for your further information :o)!
autodork
10-01-2008, 11:42
It used to just be called Timeless Titan (still exists although most of the regulars go to the Suez server these days).
I think most people come to Timeless because of FF OFF, so we're all guilty (if thats the right word) of exploiting it.
For me personally, if I saw someone use RDX to kill people in the cargo bay while simultaneously blasting themselves up to the vents to land on someone else and knife them - I'd be very impressed! This would take some skill if you ask me :)
There is a knack to using RDX to propel yourself up from level to level on the titan, it's not easy, but anyone can do it on an FF OFF server so its not an unfair advantage.....you just have to use every trick in the book and this is one of them :mrgreen:
catziggy
10-01-2008, 12:52
I am a poor RDX user but several of our Mosr senior admins including the grand chappy that pays for everything is a devout rdx user and exploits every known advantage of using rdx such as roof tops, jihad jeeps and so on.
Sadly it isn't likely our settings or rules will change. And we have never kicked for using RDX to jump etc in my role as an admin (not over a year though lol).
I Can blow my self up to the vent with RDX this is not a glitch or exploit of any sort, i did it in KAIN server once to knife him lolz
when people blow them selves through walls ECT thats cheating
There is that hack made by some company (can't remember their name, MSI or something) where you can see *everyone* on the battlefield and you can see all the enemy as 'pink' (i.e. without the normal textures wrapped round them) - through any objects - through walls, whatever....maybe he's using that?
Out of interest - catziggy: how are aimbots detected and bans enforced by pbbans?
You mean its a cheat when your enemies have different colors than they normal have? I dont know what happened to me a few months ago cuz my graphic card got too hot and all PACs looked like Milka guys lol and the EU guys looked like rainbows xD very easy too see them on 100m BUT this lasted about 5 mins and then I got a bluescreen lol =D
I hope PB would not have banned me if they had taken a screenshot =)
the point with theone187 is that he does headshots all the time. he ran into a corridor where we just killed the console and killed 3 of us in a row and all only got 1-2 hits. especially when he just came around the corner.
that makes it feel a bit suspicious.
Lol thats not too difficult =) With sniper I trained that first .. just go in there (you know there are campers and they are always at the same spots) so? Its very easy to do that and youre whining about that =) Try it and you will see its easy
f1rest@rter
12-01-2008, 14:45
just had a round with 187.
this guy is too good to be true.
autodork
12-01-2008, 15:14
I was also in that round and I just watched it again in the Battle Recorder (1/12/2008 12demo1).
I can't really see any evidence of cheating. He just has it large in the gunship before the shields go down, then after they've gone down constantly resupplies his RDX and uses it to jump up from the cargo bay to the vents.
The only slightly suspicious bits are when he seems to know when people are coming, for example at one point I was behind the cargo bay crate in the enemy titan, he ran in to the cargo bay on the other side of the crate and just ran straight up to me and blew me up with RDX as if he could see me. I know he could have seen me on the map, but I could also have been on the roof above.
There was another point when enemy were streaming into the vents from the titan roof, he was standing round the corner inside the vent (above the cargo bay) so he couldn't have seen them, but he seemed to know when they were coming and RDXed them one by one.
If he is cheating he must be using something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2XBdqZXpEU&feature=related
If he's not my hat goes off to him :)
catziggy
12-01-2008, 15:16
Ahhhh I will ban Hornet as well then. I remember he broke 100 kills in one game and had almost an exact same score.
Its not hard if you can rdx like the pros.
Listen up guys. This is ALL speculation. PBSS show nothing, i have watched several battlerecordings of him with no definitive concerns and he isnt being kicked by PBBans streams.
We have to live with it. We follow the EA online code which says basically no proof. Live with it!
autodork
12-01-2008, 15:21
I agree cat, like I say there is no proof.......btw, do you know if those MSX Security hacks would show up with the pbbans thingymajig?
catziggy
12-01-2008, 15:29
As far as I know all hacks are broken constantly.
Thats why we get people showing up on the PBBans list. People pay up to 5 times as much for the game for hacks so I guess they get as many updates as PBBANS does. Its just a question of time.
f1rest@rter
12-01-2008, 16:24
Ahhhh I will ban Hornet as well then. I remember he broke 100 kills in one game and had almost an exact same score.
well yeah but hornet has over 1400 hours played and this guy has about 100.
well perhaps he´s just talented. time will tell.
The reason i got suspicious of him was because he knifed me when we was both around the corner from each other running.. he dived to the floor rotated 180° around me and knifed me in the back. I have seen people use knife aimbots before and this was exactly like them. May have been luck though? who knows.
All i know is the amount of people who thing this guy is dodge is getting rather worrying now.
I would guess this guy is not new tbh, this is another alias, he does not feel like
anyone i've met before, maybe we have all seen him in suez with a dif alias.
But i've been up top with em all and you can just tel something ain't right with
this chappy. We all agree, regs, myself etc somethin ain't right with him.
Now guys, we really need some proof, i had my eye on this guy a while and
catz done some of his magic on him with no luck. If he's using some kind of
hack, external prog etc, he'll be caught in the PB net eventually. In the meantime
you gotta go with it that he's a very good player and he is not a cheat, this
is the opinion i side with right now as there is no proof.
He's innocent until proven guilty. Go catch him if you can lol ;)
fantastico14
12-01-2008, 19:20
i saw him on another server last day i jump in too look at his skillz..
after 5 minutes the first people cry kick this one cheater.
then i saw another crazy stuff.i was in his team nobody spotted enemys we have no commander and nobody show up on the mini map he get killed from a sniper who was hidding at silo 3 verdun map in the trees near thier own base.
i was only at silo 3 when one get killed i don´t spotted the enemy one was shooting in the back so he van´t see the enemy now the funny stuff starts.
it takes 1 minuted he poddet too silo 3 and knife the guy.
he jump from our titan with the pod there was no way he can know where this player was no commander and the distance was too long too spotted him with ground cannons i check it after i saw he knife the guy.
so what i am thinking is that he turn off and on the cheat who he is using.
i thought the same when i start this thread and say he is a cheater.
i think also the same what Jx3Aroo is saying it is too good.i am on rank 30 worldwide you know that and i do crazy shoots with my carabine so believe me when i say he is using a cheating programm.
and btw punkbuster is not good as you say much people play on streamed punkbuster servers and getting not caught.
f1rest@rter
12-01-2008, 19:21
heh! he´s french so perhaps taatoon is back.
Taatoon wasn't really ever any good from what i saw of him.
autodork
12-01-2008, 22:50
You're right Jx, Taatoon was a different player to this bloke. I remember when Taatoon was on Timeless Titan loads, he was good but not amazing, he just played a lot.
f1rest@rter
12-01-2008, 22:58
i never seen him play.... oh well.
He preferred to play as assault I think =) saw him sometimes on our server and he always was assault class with Voss =P
Arctic_Wolf
13-01-2008, 15:16
Helllooo :),
I agree there is a lot of speculation with this guy and ultimately all one can do is be suspicious and cautious with what one says or does regarding him until some form of positive proof can be obtained that anything suspet is happening with his account. Nevertheless, he is still highly worrying with some of the things you see him do etc.
I saw something new from him the other day however that I've only ever seen on a very small handful of occasions since BF 2142 was released, and whatsmore, I've only EVER seen this done in the last 6-8 weeks or so.
Any of you ever tried to fly a Gunship upside down for a prolonged period of time lol??
If you have, then I'm sure you'll all know the end result of so doing hehe!! You cream in fairly spectacularly ;) !!
Not "Theone187" lol, he has an amazing ability to fly a Gunship at a whole variety of attitudes and angles, upside down, on their sides, and the weirdest one I saw, was him flying upside down, and in the blink of an eye, pitches the nose over and is straight back into normal and level flight. That, I had NEVER seen done before and once again made me highly suspicious of this chappy :( .
I fully recognise the fact as always that there are some exceptional pilots who play these games, whom have got flying Gunships etc down to a truly fine art, I know many myself. But this guy, DAYUM lol, even out of some of the most amazing Gunship pilots I have come across since I purchased this game by the online pre-release system 1 week before it hit the shelves in the shops, I have NEVER seen a player yet who can handle a Gunship like this!!
I'm hoping when there is a Timeless admin about in the future, he'll be about to give another display of the kind of flying I'm mentioning here, if you weren't suspicious before then, you soon will be lol :)!!
Regards,
Wolfy :)!!
autodork
13-01-2008, 15:28
The more I've played with this guy the less suspicious I have actually become - yes he is good in the gunship and he gets a lot of kills, but we had a couple of rounds last night where he didn't even come in the top three - so it kind of sugests to me he is human after all.
I just think he's a very skillful player and in the right circumstances he will get a lot of kills.
Ahhhh I will ban Hornet as well then. I remember he broke 100 kills in one game and had almost an exact same score.
Its not hard if you can rdx like the pros.
Listen up guys. This is ALL speculation. PBSS show nothing, i have watched several battlerecordings of him with no definitive concerns and he isnt being kicked by PBBans streams.
We have to live with it. We follow the EA online code which says basically no proof. Live with it!
Well i'd been on the C1D3R that night lolz...
APOLLOFRENZY
25-01-2008, 08:35
Have you seen this guy running around lol! he has no loss of stamina I mean if I was to race him from one end to another this chap would lap me I think he has tweeked his settings and he does seem to know where everyone is, I'm not sure but I think this guy was banned months ago from other servers I will have to ask one or two buddies will get to you on this
autodork
25-01-2008, 10:23
He couldn't run away from this.....muahahahaha :20: